All of them. 

Cabocleer wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 9:05am:



Three manned it, elite, at level with Mts and Chloe. Actually, I more ran behind them trying to get into the haste circle.

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Should be doable if you have two persons with >20 wis iirc. And two persons with >24 str. And a trapsmith/unlocker or arcane with knock to get the locked doors.

The Velah fight can be difficult, it strongly depends on your team's skills and gear.

Infant

Cabocleer wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 9:05am:


The static group I play with (using no AH, no twinking rules) couldn't manage reaver after the update that boosted it. At-level disintegrates really took their toll.

Infant wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 9:41am:


We are all RL friends, and some of us have several characters.
Usually we play with H-Cleric, Drow-Artificer, H-Wizard, Dwarf-Barb, Horc-Barb, H-fighter.
All of them very classic, no con dumps, so nothing special. Barbs have >24 Str and Cleric >24 wis.
The Barbarians, Cleric (me) & Artificer are quite good geared (bloodstone, festival Icy Burst, Brilliance & Beatitude clickies, small guild slots here and there, haste clickies, deathblocks, moderate fortitude and so on).
The Wizard (my brother) is not very well geared.
The fighter is not very well geared and is played by a VERY casual player. So he has given me access to his account, so I can retouch it (he was quite surprised as his 59 hp fighter  suddenly had 106 hp.. now at lvl 8 is near 200 hp).

Our main problem is n00binesh:
"Okay, lets loot this chest, lets click on "loot all"... what is this annoying pop up... donowhat bound to account... whatever fuck yes, yes, c´mon...oh, a hellfire x-bow, this could be nice for the arti...wtf? BtA? What?" (Actually happened, in the chrono run)

"Okay, this door is TEH DOAARR to the Boss. I will top you all with the wand, and then we will buff and...*schrooooon" (noise of door opening) WHO THE FUCK OPENED THE FUCKING DOOOR???"

Not waiting until trap is disabled.
Aggro management : What is that?
CC: Crystal Cove?

with a lot of screaming sometimes I have some little success...

If you have someone with DDoor and someone with jets (abundant step, fvs wings, air savant jet, missle-toe, heck even cannith jet boots) you can 3 man Twilight Forge/Titan pretty easily if you know how. Even doing it at-level (11-13) isn't much harder, but that reduces your jet options to a monk or missle-toe.

You can exploit Abbot goggles-style instead of jetting, but that ticks me off personally.

JDollar wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 11:10am:


I know, I know. At the time we are all around lvl 9, some of us have some nice gear for the lvl (f.ex. Crystal Cove stuff), but it is not amazing for sure. And then... the fighter... I can remember in "taming the flames" as I suddenly took a look at the fighter... S&B and Muckbane. I had made some quests the day before (as I have his account) to put some XP in, as the distance to the others was growing. As I DCed I left the toon with the S&B and the Muckbane. "Please, tell me you didn´t run all the quest with that weapon" Answer: "cough, cough".

Just go into raids and try to figure them out.  There is lots of information out there that is awesome - maps and helpful tips for all the raids in DDO.  But if you're a static group that is just having a good time, there is no harm in just jumping in and figuring it out as you go.  As everyone above said, everything can be short-manned.  Most raids only need a few bodies to actually do something in order to complete, but I wouldn't expect to complete every time if you're not familiar with the quests.

If there's a raid out there that you're interested in doing, take a peek at the Wiki.  I'm pretty sure it lets you know at least what you need (i.e. VoN 5 with wis and str levers).

Good luck!  I ran with a static group of irl friends and hubby when we first started playing DDO and it was a blast.

One thing to think of with von5 is that you can just have someone come in that have the required stats and then leave or switch toons

What Gawna said.



About this, dammit.



Given your party, (and the fact that you want to do it),  VoN is a perfectly good choice.  It's a really good way to learn what the raid requires, too.

A LOT of people trail along behind on many VoN runs that only sort of know what actually needs to be done (Or only their special thing).  It won't be a quick completion,  but going in with your group and figuring it out will lead to you actually learning it. 

And if you actually pull it off at level its quite a lot of xps.  Good luck!

IMO, the best way to learn VON5 is to lead it. It's what I did in the end - just picked up a walkthrough and asked people to be patient.

Protip: If you have the voice and the ring you can walk through the forcefields on the LHS north. I learned that the hard way

If you are Khyber and are short a 20 wisdom, look for me - I have a level 9 cleric that's a mule - she's flagged and can do the Wisdom rune. Teresomething in the Hand of the Black Tower. Can't guarantee I won't be questing, but if I can I will log it and help out.

From this wiki page - http://ddowiki.com/page/The_Vault_of_Night

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