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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #25 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:17pm	Print Post
	Yeah, I have no effing idea what caused them to do that with ioun stones. They were perfect as-is. Now they're just lame, another thing to grind for.


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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #26 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:18pm	Print Post
	I think this also clarifies why they rushed out that last patch....

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #27 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:20pm	Print Post
	Wow, those are pretty senseless changes to the boots, especially the morale thing. How shit.


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junkyarddog Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 158 Location: 1 brick shy of a full load Joined: Jan 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #28 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:24pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 3:23pm: Tomes now stay after a TR . this is the best news yet for me. I've yet to tr anyone and this is the hold up. I've got a number of toons from the "soon" days of shroud after shroud. some of which have 4+ +3 tomes used. 2 build points wern't enough for me to think about tr ing these toons. guess i've got some planning to do
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Elegorne DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 433 Location: Georgia Joined: May 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #29 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:33pm	Print Post
	Quote: I'm not so sure how I feel about the ioun stone drops. I liked the "holy grail" type of items, that are ridiculously hard to find and very useful, but not at all OP (pretty much only PLIS, VPIS, and eRoSS). Considering that I pulled a PLIS a week ago(see other thread here- reckon I know what I'm gonna do with it now ) this sums it up; all in all, though, if all these changes make it to live I will be more of a happy panda (one with a dot circling his head), then a sad one Edit: Goddamit Oak!!!
	« Last Edit: Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:34pm by Elegorne »
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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #30 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:39pm	Print Post
	Elegorne wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:33pm: Considering that I pulled a PLIS a week ago(see other thread here- reckon I know what I'm gonna do with it now http://www.ddovault.com/Images/Smoak.png) this sums it up; all in all, though, if all these changes make it to live I will be more of a happy panda (one with a dot circling his head), then a sad one Edit: Goddamit Oak!!! Quick, sell that shit before people find out!


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livefreeordie Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2011	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #31 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:40pm	Print Post
	changed one of the few luck based items into another grind. bad move on the ion stones


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Elegorne DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 433 Location: Georgia Joined: May 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #32 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:44pm	Print Post
	Oakianus wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:39pm: Quick, sell that shit before people find out!� Too fucking lazy...I'll upgrade it and keep it around, methinks...unless you wanna give, like, 20 scales for it?

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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #33 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:47pm	Print Post
	livefreeordie wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:40pm: changed one of the few luck based items into another grind.� bad move on the ion stones I'm kind of split on this one. In two years, leveling 7 or 8 first lifers and 5 TR's I saw one drop. They always were grindable you just had to farm low level quests till your eyes bled. I assume even as a end reward some will still be very rare while the +6 stat crappers will be common.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #34 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:57pm	Print Post
	My take on the monk-centric changes: stainer wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 3:22pm: Monk melee attack ranges have been increased while moving forward or chasing a target. Love this,� now if I'll actually be able to run up and hit something running at me instead of us both having to stop and turn around I will be ecstatic. stainer wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 3:22pm: Monks and unarmed characters will no longer proc dual wield or double strike attacks when using Trip, Sunder, Stunning Blow, or other special attacks, making them consistent with other classes. Special "monk-only" abilities are unaffected by this change. Probably going to be a big stink raised about this but doesn't bother me. stainer wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 3:22pm: Monks will now resume their attack sequence a little faster after performing a buff-style finishing move. A nice change but nothing I've really had too much of a problem with it.

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Cabocleer Korthos Resident Offline Um, yeah, whatever. Posts: 98 Joined: Jan 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #35 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:57pm	Print Post
	I like a lot of that. I don't think I've even heard of anybody who'd made a Shield of Legend. Most of them are obsolete by lvls >18, it's nice that it'll be a little easier to get them. A bunch of those seem to be either bug fixes or really-stupid-grind fixes. Not sure how I feel about the Ioun stones, but it certainly makes running the series a better option. Thx for posting up, Max.

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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #36 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:58pm	Print Post
	The buff-style move will apply to Kukan-Do, I presume. So that's pretty awesome.


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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #37 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:00pm	Print Post
	Cabocleer wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:57pm: I like a lot of that.� I don't think I've even heard of anybody who'd made a Shield of Legend.� Most of them are obsolete by lvls >18, it's nice that it'll be a little easier to get them. � This will be great for Tome Pages and Sigil pieces. The shields are obsolete before you purchase them. You can Cannith Craft better shields.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Belwaar Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1017 Location: With Hordo's Mom Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #38 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:04pm	Print Post
	Maxwell Edison wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:57pm: stainer wrote Today at 1:22pm: Monks and unarmed characters will no longer proc dual wield or double strike attacks when using Trip, Sunder, Stunning Blow, or other special attacks, making them consistent with other classes. Special "monk-only" abilities are unaffected by this change. Probably going to be a big stink raised about this but doesn't bother me. I'm not too worried about the trip, sunder, etc.� I'm glad they didn't mess with ToD though.� It's always fun to hit ToD and then spin and hit 2 or 3 mobs for 750 a pop.�
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Darkrok Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1066 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #39 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:26pm	Print Post
	This may only affect my play style but: Quote: Necrotic Ray is no longer subject to Spell Resistance I keep that spell on my bar specifically to debuff once or twice before a FoD on tough mobs.� With the spell point adjustment on it (10sp w/ no meta's) I can turn off all meta's for just that spell, Necrotic Ray, SLA-nuke something (usually use the AoE one on the Necrotic Ray target), Necrotic Ray, FoD.� If I'm in a hurry I can shoot off the no-meta ray followed immediately by a FoD. When I'm using it there's usually a big return on it...up to situations where I would have failed if the mob rolled a 19 or 20 and now only fail on the 20. Most people do an enervate or energy drain but I've found I normally don't need those and the sp costs are higher at 25sp for enervate or 50 for energy drain.� And the efficiency of levels drained per sp isn't that far off - 12.5 on average for enervate and 10 on average for energy drain.� Given that both of the will still have Spell Resistance applied while the Ray will not...that just makes it a no-brainer.� Unless it's against a low Spell Resistance enemy or you need to drain levels in a hurry a no-meta Necrotic Ray will be the way to go.
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sweez Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 764 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #40 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:37pm	Print Post
	popejubal wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 3:35pm: Hooray!� My Heavy Pick specced Kensai will finally be better at something than a Khopesh specced Kensai! You're assuming they'll have more than 10 DR


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sweez Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 764 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #41 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:39pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 3:47pm: Have you not done a TR with bravery? I never get less than 3000 a life, and I should end up near 3800 this life since I'm seeing how far I can push my streak. TRing with bravery is fast. TRing with bravery but making sure to hit EVERY SINGLE QUEST ALONG THE WAY is still supa slow some of us despise not being 20 for lenghty periods of time
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sweez Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 764 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #42 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:45pm	Print Post
	Darkrok wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:26pm: This may only affect my play style but: I keep that spell on my bar specifically to debuff once or twice before a FoD on tough mobs.� With the spell point adjustment on it (10sp w/ no meta's) I can turn off all meta's for just that spell, Necrotic Ray, SLA-nuke something (usually use the AoE one on the Necrotic Ray target), Necrotic Ray, FoD.� If I'm in a hurry I can shoot off the no-meta ray followed immediately by a FoD.� When I'm using it there's usually a big return on it...up to situations where I would have failed if the mob rolled a 19 or 20 and now only fail on the 20.� Most people do an enervate or energy drain but I've found I normally don't need those and the sp costs are higher at 25sp for enervate or 50 for energy drain.� And the efficiency of levels drained per sp isn't that far off - 12.5 on average for enervate and 10 on average for energy drain.� Given that both of the will still have Spell Resistance applied while the Ray will not...that just makes it a no-brainer.� Unless it's against a low Spell Resistance enemy or you need to drain levels in a hurry a no-meta Necrotic Ray will be the way to go. The necro ray change made me wet, that spell is seriously underrated when it comes to dps - with a heavy necro spec most mobs won't save and won't have any resistance to it. Gonna happily use it on epic drow once u13 hits


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Darkrok Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1066 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #43 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:49pm	Print Post
	sweez wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:45pm: The necro ray change made me wet, that spell is seriously underrated when it comes to dps - with a heavy necro spec most mobs won't save and won't have any resistance to it. Gonna happily use it on epic drow once u13 hits Yeah, at 10sp's for around 125, 250, 500+ damage (save, no save, crit no-save) it's a nice extra damage option to throw in with the sla's as well. Max+Empower on it is very nice damage as well though the sp is a bit high for my play style and toon.

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Xenostrata Ex Member	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #44 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	Darkrok wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:49pm: Yeah, at 10sp's for around 125, 250, 500+ damage (save, no save, crit no-save) it's a nice extra damage option to throw in with the sla's as well.� Max+Empower on it is very nice damage as well though the sp is a bit high for my play style and toon. Ooooh... yay... another level 6 spell for my Sorc to try to fit in...


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Darkrok Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1066 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #45 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:00pm	Print Post
	Quote: Ooooh... yay... another level 6 spell for my Sorc to try to fit in... If you haven't already drop GH. Then let the bard cast or sing it and if you need it on yourself carry a stack of scrolls. Another interesting thought just came to me on this too. If there's no spell resistance on this and it confers a negative level regardless of a saving throw, that would mean that Necro Ray scrolls just got a HECK of a lot better for toons that can UMD. Any toon with the necessary UMD can now give 1 neg level every 6 seconds. My DDO wiki says they're not on vendors though so unless that's changed you'd have to be collecting for quite awhile to abuse that.

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Xenostrata Ex Member	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #46 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:03pm	Print Post
	Darkrok wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:00pm: If you haven't already drop GH.� Then let the bard cast or sing it and if you need it on yourself carry a stack of scrolls. Another interesting thought just came to me on this too.� If there's no spell resistance on this and it confers a negative level regardless of a saving throw, that would mean that Necro Ray scrolls just got a HECK of a lot better for toons that can UMD.� Any toon with the necessary UMD can now give 1 neg level every 6 seconds.� My DDO wiki says they're not on vendors though so unless that's changed you'd have to be collecting for quite awhile to abuse that. Disintegrate/Reconstruct/Chain Lightning. I could drop Reconstruct, but I find the cooldown on the scrolls painful - and being able to quickly bring someone up without swapping anything around (and getting them up by 100-150 points more than a scroll) can make a big difference. Edit: and I've already given up on ever having access to Circle of Death, Flesh to Stone, or Mass Suggestion already.
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mudfud Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1123 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2011	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #47 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:09pm	Print Post
	Besides the new quests and such, the only good thing about this update is keeping tomes after TR's and the lvl 7 veteran status. They are making farming not even worthwhile. While I understand why everyone wants certain ioun stones, that was what made it great, the farm and hope of getting one. Same with every chain quest that is being changed to every 3 times completed. Pretty soon we'll be able to get capped alts the pace they going or get named items off store.


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furbyoats Stormreaver Piker Offline One stroke at a time... Posts: 607 Joined: Nov 14^th, 2010	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #48 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:42pm	Print Post
	So...the prices on unbound +3 tomes just got a boost...

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mudfud Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1123 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2011	Re: Update 13 has reached Lamannia Reply #49 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:45pm	Print Post
	Or wait till they make a comeback in ddostore. They are actually worth the price now.


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