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kmack Ex Member Gender:	No more encumbrance? Jan 27^th, 2012 at 12:40pm	Print Post
	http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?&postid=4281101#post4281101 Quote: Encumbrance: what value does it really bring to DDO? How many of you would mind if this just sort of 'went away'?


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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #1 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 12:53pm	Print Post
	Would be surprised by anything less than a 100:1 ratio of BEGONEWITHIT! to ITHASFLAVOR

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JakLee Bailiff Offline Monotremes and Money Posts: 1533 Location: Spokane Joined: Aug 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #2 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:08pm	Print Post
	Maxwell Edison wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 12:53pm: Would be surprised by anything less than a 100:1 ratio of BEGONEWITHIT! to ITHASFLAVOR Tastes like chicken

	from Preamus: Quote: at least i'm agnostic so while I "think" you're full of crap I don't "know" you're full of crap Strakeln wrote on Feb 1^st, 2012 at 10:37pm: JakLee will be the bailiff.� He's got a stun gun and everything. Have you seen my platypus? There are two types of people in this world: 1. Those who need closure.
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Merrick DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 456 Joined: Nov 29^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #3 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:08pm	Print Post
	I wonder what they'll "re-balance" so that all of those mobs casting ray of enfeeblement/exhaustion can still kill players by overloading them.


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JC My Little Pony Offline Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #4 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:11pm	Print Post
	I have an 8 base str cleric. that 8 base str was a mistake. lucky bulls strength is a class spell and it does not hurt at all to load it. However needing to keep myself buffed with bulls strength AT ALL TIMES is getting really annoying. That being said I would rather have them leave it alone, cause this is really only a problem for characters with a base str of 8, and I like strength damage being a weakness to pure casters. I think ill just copy this to the other thread...
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	Alekx wrote on Jun 15^th, 2011 at 11:46pm: Fuck you and your political correctness. Eat a big fat conservative homo cock while you gaze at pony pictures with a hose up your ass.
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Merrick DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 456 Joined: Nov 29^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #5 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:15pm	Print Post
	JC wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:11pm: I have an 8 base str cleric. that 8 base str was a mistake. lucky bulls strength is a class spell and it does not hurt at all to load it. However needing to keep myself buffed with bulls strength AT ALL TIMES is getting really annoying. Yeah, my Arti has 8 base as well. Thankfully UMD is a class skill and Bull's Strength wands are everywhere. Even just making chest runs in sands for bloodstones/ross's I regularly hit 0 str if I don't have bull's up.


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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #6 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:17pm	Print Post
	Merrick wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:08pm: I wonder what they'll "re-balance" so that all of those mobs casting ray of enfeeblement/exhaustion can still kill players by overloading them. Double save (Str score or Fort save) Make first, no effect. Fail one, burdened. Fail both overloaded.

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Infant Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 215 Joined: Mar 8^th, 2011	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #7 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:20pm	Print Post
	Actually, I like the fact that you have to drink a restoration potion on a caster when hit by a ray of enfeeblement. Infant


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Infant Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 215 Joined: Mar 8^th, 2011	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #8 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:23pm	Print Post
	JC wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:11pm: I have an 8 base str cleric. that 8 base str was a mistake. lucky bulls strength is a class spell and it does not hurt at all to load it. However needing to keep myself buffed with bulls strength AT ALL TIMES is getting really annoying. That being said I would rather have them leave it alone, cause this is really only a problem for characters with a base str of 8, and I like strength damage being a weakness to pure casters. I think ill just copy this to the other thread... This. It's not simple annoyance or flavor (like the spell ingredients are). It's has a "build decision" aspect about it. Infant


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Merrick DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 456 Joined: Nov 29^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #9 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:31pm	Print Post
	Infant wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:20pm: Actually, I like the fact that you have to drink a restoration potion on a caster when hit by a ray of enfeeblement. Infant Except at 0 STR you can't drink a potion...


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kmack Ex Member Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #10 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:43pm	Print Post
	Maxwell Edison wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:17pm: Double save (Str score or Fort save) Make first, no effect. Fail one, burdened. Fail both overloaded. That would be perfect. Most annoying aspect of Skyrim was losing movement speed because I carried too much gear. Mule runs to drop off gear does NOT = fun.


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JC My Little Pony Offline Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #11 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	Infant wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:20pm: Actually, I like the fact that you have to drink a restoration potion on a caster when hit by a ray of enfeeblement. Infant I remember that one time I had to beg for a restoration after getting hit by a symbol of weakness in part two of shroud. I didn't think I would need the pot because I could cast the spell. I carry the pot now. I have never used it, but I carry it.

	Alekx wrote on Jun 15^th, 2011 at 11:46pm: Fuck you and your political correctness. Eat a big fat conservative homo cock while you gaze at pony pictures with a hose up your ass.
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Infant Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 215 Joined: Mar 8^th, 2011	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #12 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:47pm	Print Post
	Merrick wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:31pm: Except at 0 STR you can't drink a potion... Then you failed at building and gearing your caster . STR-draining effects are one the few things that favor melees over casters. Infant


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JC My Little Pony Offline Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #13 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:47pm	Print Post
	Merrick wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:31pm: Except at 0 STR you can't drink a potion... Well shit. I guess that's one more inventory slot then.

	Alekx wrote on Jun 15^th, 2011 at 11:46pm: Fuck you and your political correctness. Eat a big fat conservative homo cock while you gaze at pony pictures with a hose up your ass.
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JC My Little Pony Offline Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #14 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:49pm	Print Post
	Infant wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:47pm: Then you failed at building and gearing your caster� �. STR-draining effects are one the few things that favor melees over casters. Infant Yes I have failed. But when I fail I make sure to fail gloriously. Rule 16.

	Alekx wrote on Jun 15^th, 2011 at 11:46pm: Fuck you and your political correctness. Eat a big fat conservative homo cock while you gaze at pony pictures with a hose up your ass.
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Infant Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 215 Joined: Mar 8^th, 2011	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #15 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:50pm	Print Post
	JC wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:46pm: I remember that one time I had to beg for a restoration after getting hit by a symbol of weakness in part two of shroud. I didn't think I would need the pot because I could cast the spell. I carry the pot now. I have never used it, but I carry it. I must say that not only do I carry the pots on all of my characters (divines included), but also I have it hotkeyed (same as remove curse pots). To get rid of enfeeblement/stat damage/exhaustion ASAP. Infant


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Darkrok Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1066 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #16 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 4:22pm	Print Post
	I agree that encumbrance is something that affects (and should effect) build decisions but with the caveat that all the stupid challenge, shroud, cannith, baking, crystal meth, and other assorted ingredients that end up in the red or green bags should have no weight once they get there. Otherwise it goes from a build decision to DDO: Inventory Management 401.

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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #17 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 4:24pm	Print Post
	Darkrok wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 4:22pm: affects (and should effect)


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Darkrok Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1066 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #18 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 5:03pm	Print Post
	Oakianus wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 4:24pm: http://www.ddovault.com/yabbfiles/Smilies/tekst-toppie.gif Posting while on the phone with an annoying customer for the loss.

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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #19 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 6:27pm	Print Post
	Darkrok wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 5:03pm: Posting while on the phone with an annoying customer for the loss. I thought you did it on purpose. Though worries about encumbrance shouldn't exactly effect builds, it'd be funny if it did.


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #20 - Jan 28^th, 2012 at 4:30am	Print Post
	Merrick wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:31pm: Except at 0 STR you can't drink a potion... So have a higher str then 12. Problem solved, stop being a noob.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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lifespawn Korthos Resident Offline GFY Posts: 69 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2011	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #21 - Jan 28^th, 2012 at 6:38am	Print Post
	this is their way of saying we can't actually fix bags of holding to have everything inside be weightless so instead lets just make encumbrance a thing of the past. It's the band-aid like coding handwraps to not be weapons that turbine likes to keep doing.


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Kimberlite Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1074 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #22 - Jan 28^th, 2012 at 8:45am	Print Post
	lifespawn wrote on Jan 28^th, 2012 at 6:38am: this is their way of saying we can't actually fix bags of holding to have everything inside be weightless so instead lets just make encumbrance a thing of the past. It's the band-aid like coding handwraps to not be weapons that turbine likes to keep doing. Hey, they asked what people thought before doing it. That is a huge improvement. I would be sad if there was no longer a mechanism in the game for 8 str wizards to become helpless. Wizards and sorcs should not have four dumpstats.

	Memnir wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:59am: Note to any Turbine staffers reading this, and one I genuinely hope you share around the office: DDO has become a shit game because y'all have made it a shit game. Once it was great. Now, it's a festering puddle of monkey diarrhea. No matter how you try to justify it, or pat yourselves on the back for doing great jobs... it's a shit game now because of you. Y'all keep on giving the players the middle finger, and you keep expecting us to reward you for the abuse. I've had it with you narcissistic fuckwads and your myopic policies of ineptitude.
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #23 - Jan 28^th, 2012 at 8:52am	Print Post
	Kimberlite wrote on Jan 28^th, 2012 at 8:45am: Hey, they asked what people thought before doing it. That is a huge improvement. I would be sad if there was no longer a mechanism in the game for 8 str wizards to become helpless. Wizards and sorcs should not have four dumpstats. You mean like barbs and fighters?

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Kimberlite Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1074 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: No more encumbrance? Reply #24 - Jan 28^th, 2012 at 8:58am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Jan 28^th, 2012 at 8:52am: You mean like barbs and fighters? In the current state of the game, they wouldn't be overpowered even if they had 6 dump stats. I have seen the occasional one with TWF, especially fighters. Combat expertise (??) requires some points to int. UMD might drive a few points to cha.
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	Memnir wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:59am: Note to any Turbine staffers reading this, and one I genuinely hope you share around the office: DDO has become a shit game because y'all have made it a shit game. Once it was great. Now, it's a festering puddle of monkey diarrhea. No matter how you try to justify it, or pat yourselves on the back for doing great jobs... it's a shit game now because of you. Y'all keep on giving the players the middle finger, and you keep expecting us to reward you for the abuse. I've had it with you narcissistic fuckwads and your myopic policies of ineptitude.
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