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Re: No more encumbrance?
Reply #25 - Jan 28th, 2012 at 9:11am
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TWF only requires you to drop con by 2 points, resulting in 20 less hp at endgame.  You then get 14 dex, a +3 tome gets you 17, 17 grants access to itwf and gtwf.  You don't need points in CHA to use heal scrolls.  Noobs shouldn't make TWF, because otherwise you can argue the +3 tome and I would prefer you didn't. 

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Re: No more encumbrance?
Reply #26 - Jan 28th, 2012 at 9:13am
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I also forgot to mention, this is supposed to somewhat loosely based on D&D.  The only two things that are related to D&D currently are:
1.  Eberron
2.  Melee suck compared to casters.
  
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Reply #27 - Jan 28th, 2012 at 10:19am
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Epoch wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 9:11am:
TWF only requires you to drop con by 2 points, resulting in 20 less hp at endgame.  You then get 14 dex, a +3 tome gets you 17, 17 grants access to itwf and gtwf.  You don't need points in CHA to use heal scrolls.  Noobs shouldn't make TWF, because otherwise you can argue the +3 tome and I would prefer you didn't. 

BAM!

6 points into Dex (assuming a +3 tome, which I have never even seen because I rarely raid) hardly makes it a dump stat. Zero points = dump.

Noobs shouldn't play monks then, I guess.
  
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Re: No more encumbrance?
Reply #28 - Jan 28th, 2012 at 10:39am
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Kimberlite wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 10:19am:
6 points into Dex (assuming a +3 tome, which I have never even seen because I rarely raid) hardly makes it a dump stat. Zero points = dump.

Noobs shouldn't play monks then, I guess.


You are right, noobs shouldn't play monks.  It is bad enough that they play the game in the first person.
  
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Reply #29 - Jan 28th, 2012 at 10:49am
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Kimberlite wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 8:58am:
In the current state of the game, they wouldn't be overpowered even if they had 6 dump stats.

I have seen the occasional one with TWF, especially fighters. Combat expertise (??) requires some points to int. UMD might drive a few points to cha.


And yet, the vast majority don't give a shit about CE or UMD - I would be comfortable saying that over 90% of fighters and barbs have 3-4 dump stats (3 if they are twf).

Encumbrance is a nice idea as a balancing mechanic, but it's also really stupid if you think about it. Casters are already carrying a shit ton more weight than your average melee due to the retarded mechanism of spell components. If you want to balance melees and spell casters, balance actual combat effects, not situational annoyances like encumbrance
  
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Reply #30 - Jan 28th, 2012 at 11:09am
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And yet, the vast majority don't give a shit about CE or UMD - I would be comfortable saying that over 90% of fighters and barbs have 3-4 dump stats (3 if they are twf).

Encumbrance is a nice idea as a balancing mechanic, but it's also really stupid if you think about it. Casters are already carrying a shit ton more weight than your average melee due to the retarded mechanism of spell components. If you want to balance melees and spell casters, balance actual combat effects, not situational annoyances like encumbrance


And scrolls. I got shit loads of scrolls.

...Do scrolls weigh that much? I forget, I never really paid attention to weight.
  
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Re: No more encumbrance?
Reply #31 - Jan 28th, 2012 at 12:50pm
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Epoch wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 10:39am:
It is bad enough that they play the game in the first person.


Should they play it in the third person? That sounds even more annoying.
  
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Re: No more encumbrance?
Reply #32 - Jan 28th, 2012 at 12:58pm
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Grace wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 12:50pm:
Should they play it in the third person? That sounds even more annoying.


ROFL!  OMG, didn't see that.  I meant place lol.
  
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I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

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Re: No more encumbrance?
Reply #33 - Jan 28th, 2012 at 1:03pm
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Epoch wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 12:58pm:
ROFL!  OMG, didn't see that.  I meant place lol.


It's okay, Grace understands. Grace knew what you meant. She was just giving you shit.
  
JDollar wrote on Apr 10th, 2013 at 5:25pm:
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Re: No more encumbrance?
Reply #34 - Jan 28th, 2012 at 4:10pm
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Grace wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 12:50pm:
Should they play it in the third person? That sounds even more annoying.

Oakianus was really excited to make this exact observation.  Sad
  
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Re: No more encumbrance?
Reply #35 - Jan 28th, 2012 at 4:45pm
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Would it be amusing if there where more cha/int/wis draining attacks? whoops incapped!! though melees don't need any more nerfs.


oh wait who needs attacks? just wear your shiney new nike jordan madstone boots.
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Re: No more encumbrance?
Reply #36 - Jan 30th, 2012 at 10:56am
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Epoch wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 4:30am:
So have a higher str then 12.  Problem solved, stop being a noob.


Now why would I want to go and do a thing like that?
People might start expecting me to do something other than pike.
  
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Re: No more encumbrance?
Reply #37 - Jan 31st, 2012 at 2:47am
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Sounds like they getting ready for FR. Gimme a sec, I have the kitchen sink in my bag here somewhere....
  
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Re: No more encumbrance?
Reply #38 - Jan 31st, 2012 at 10:35am
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Kimberlite wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 8:45am:
I would be sad if there was no longer a mechanism in the game for 8 str wizards to become helpless. Wizards and sorcs should not have four dumpstats.


Encumbrance has absolutely nothing to do with helplessness.

Encumbrance at most means dumping a worthless plate armor every once in a while, and moving a bit slower until you drink a lesser restore pot.  It's a waste of CPU time to track, and dev effort to set reasonable weights.  Begone with it.  If we really miss moving slow after an enfeeblement on low STR characters, just add a movement slowing effect to enfeeblement and STR damage, that kicks in at low STR.
  
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Reply #39 - Jan 31st, 2012 at 10:47am
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Cor wrote on Jan 31st, 2012 at 10:35am:
Encumbrance has absolutely nothing to do with helplessness.

Encumbrance at most means dumping a worthless plate armor every once in a while, and moving a bit slower until you drink a lesser restore pot.  It's a waste of CPU time to track, and dev effort to set reasonable weights.  Begone with it.  If we really miss moving slow after an enfeeblement on low STR characters, just add a movement slowing effect to enfeeblement and STR damage, that kicks in at low STR.


That's just sane talk. What's that doin here?
  
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