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hgm-chi Dragon Raider Offline Meh. Posts: 269 Joined: Nov 26^th, 2010	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #25 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 3:53pm	Print Post
	Quote: That's a function of trust, I would guess. Random pugger tell you that, then, sure, both. Someone you trust that you know to have a lot more experience than you it would be one or the other. Fair enough, although pretty much all the guys I run with on a regular basis that have way more experience than me I trust to lie through their teeth in the hopes someone will do something stupid with the misinformation... Rest is, of course, the obvious exception. He'd never mess with anyone for the lulz.


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Azog Ex Member	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #26 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 4:50pm	Print Post
	Quote: I'm on Thelanis and I wanted to see if I could solo it before joining icy runs. (At least then I know how to get there and what to expect so that I don't slow anyone else down. I make this a habit with any quest I'm not familiar with if possible.) I did just roll Diogenesis on Khyber to dink around with. Diogenes was already taken on all servers, of course. You should have taken Laertius as name, Diogenes as surename. And, yes, I don�t know what you are talking about in this post. But nevermind.


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Strakeln Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Lumberjack Posts: 12345 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2009	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #27 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 11:31pm	Print Post
	Quote: I'm on Thelanis and I wanted to see if I could solo it before joining icy runs. (At least then I know how to get there and what to expect so that I don't slow anyone else down. I make this a habit with any quest I'm not familiar with if possible.) In case you don't know, the way to get there spawns in random locations.� You can get there by following the floating runes.� Each set of runes will have a "tail," if you follow that tail, it will take you to the spawn location. Example: ### ### ####� �� go right � ### � ### ####� �� go left

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Diogenes Ex Member	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #28 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:22am	Print Post
	Strakeln wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 11:31pm: You can get there by following the floating runes. Thank you. This much is on the wiki, so I was OK there. I'm not ashamed to admit I died 6 or 7 times and re-entered on my first attempt. A couple of those deaths were to living spells.


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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #29 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:24am	Print Post
	Quote: Thank you. This much is on the wiki, so I was OK there. I'm not ashamed to admit I died 6 or 7 times and re-entered on my first attempt. A couple of those deaths were to living spells. The sub can be brutal solo.

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Crazeee Waterworks Kobold Offline I Am Drama! Posts: 161 Location: Khyber Joined: Feb 14^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #30 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:33am	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:24am: The sub can be brutal solo. Yeah, so not worth soloing, except for maybe with a very self-sufficient build.

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Diogenes Ex Member	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #31 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:53am	Print Post
	Crazeee wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:33am: Yeah, so not worth soloing, except for maybe with a very self-sufficient build. The lack of evasion with a good reflex save is what did me in that much, I expect. I have a wf arti/monk splash that is close to trying it out.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #32 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 11:32am	Print Post
	Monks with decent AC can kick ass in the sub - just gotta get past the living spells. Arcanes cut through it obviously but it can take a lot of mana solo.


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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #33 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 12:58pm	Print Post
	Duo'd my Icy with a buddy from Switzerland. Soul survivor and my abomination arti/ranger. Even at 14ish I hung in pretty well, a lot better than I expected. Landed Tira's on 3rd and the Icy on 4th...well, he got both lol, I got a Frostbrand x2!


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Diogenes Ex Member	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #34 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 2:26pm	Print Post
	Nice...I wonder what the optimal group size for these runs to be most efficient. I'm guessing with 12 people you'll lose time reforming unless everyone is "on the job". 6-ish in a guild group? (now that I know to stay off the frakking gold my duo should go much smoother)
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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #35 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 2:33pm	Print Post
	I just threw up an LFM, ran down there, and gave it about 2-3 minutes after the chests were up before opening them, for people who weren't there yet. No need to sit around waiting all day, but you get plenty of rolls, considering there's always a number of arties in there looking for a runearm.


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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #36 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 3:00pm	Print Post
	Quote: Nice...I wonder what the optimal group size for these runs to be most efficient. I'm guessing with 12 people you'll lose time reforming unless everyone is "on the job". 6-ish in a guild group? (now that I know to stay off the frakking gold my duo should go much smoother) Also, invis as much as possible. Saves time and resources. The living spells can see you at the start so kill those, door, invis, run, run, run, kill beholder if you get that far, invis, run, run, run, kill garamol, profit. We fought him under the lip at that archway on the back of his dais. Kept you out of the traps at least. Sometimes you'd get bounced out or shift the wrong way cause of disorientation, but mostly you'll stay in the arch.


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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #37 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 3:01pm	Print Post
	Quote: Nice...I wonder what the optimal group size for these runs to be most efficient. I'm guessing with 12 people you'll lose time reforming unless everyone is "on the job". 6-ish in a guild group? (now that I know to stay off the frakking gold my duo should go much smoother) I would go with as many as you can. Some people just jump in for slayer/rare/explorer xp. Most will continue to run for a couple of runs after they get their Icy. At most, you shouldn't take more than a few runs before you get one. You should see them up for roll by your second or third run, if not the first. You will feel the urge to return for someone that has fallen from the first jump without FF on. Tell them to suck it and hit the next LFM.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Diogenes Ex Member	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #38 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 3:33pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 3:01pm: You will feel the urge to return for someone that has fallen from the first jump without FF on. Tell them to suck it and hit the next LFM. I did this (fell in) the very first time I went into the subT for a pug HoX on my first life cleric. I told them I had never been there, got lost, fell in either the 1st or 2nd pit, gave it a good go between blade barriers/cometfall and RS bursts but ultimately died. I excused myself from that raid...I was the only cleric, too, so I probably did everyone a favor by getting out. I think it was after this that I decided to make damn sure I at least know my way around....I may not be fast, but at least have a general idea where I'm supposed to be...mostly.
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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #39 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 3:39pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 3:01pm: You will feel the urge to return for someone that has fallen from the first jump without FF on. Tell them to suck it and hit the next LFM. If I shank the jump, I just start recalling, most times I can get out before I get hit.


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Hi Welcome King of Trolls Offline Drama chips... now in Argonnessen Apple flavor! Posts: 2759 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #40 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 6:52pm	Print Post
	Unless I'm forgetting something the living spells are only in the beginning area right?

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Diogenes Ex Member	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #41 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 7:35pm	Print Post
	Hi Welcome wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 6:52pm: Unless I'm forgetting something the living spells are only in the beginning area right? To the first garamol spawn point there's only 2 living spells. I don't think they're always the same type, but I have not been in there very much, obviously. I wouldn't have guessed invis would be useful, that's cool. Not sure if they're leashed, but at least some of the skeletons seem to be.


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #42 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 8:03pm	Print Post
	Hi Welcome wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 6:52pm: Unless I'm forgetting something the living spells are only in the beginning area right? Yes, in the big room as you make the first jump to the right. There are at least 12-14 Living Spells in that area. Living Meteor Swarms, Living Firestorms, Living Harms, etc.
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Osharan Tregarth Horoluth Raider Offline I'm an ass... Deal with it. Posts: 2663 Location: Fresno Joined: Aug 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #43 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:06pm	Print Post
	Quote: Nice...I wonder what the optimal group size for these runs to be most efficient. I'm guessing with 12 people you'll lose time reforming unless everyone is "on the job". 6-ish in a guild group? (now that I know to stay off the frakking gold my duo should go much smoother) The times I've bothered with party members for those runs, we just make sure everyone stays there after looting, and then cast a GT to the portable hole. Party leader types /disband once everyone is out of the sub, and then hoists up an lfm to reform. Everyone is already in a tavern, so getting spellpoints, etc only takes a min. In weaker groups where I was just helping other people out, I'll drop in solo with my WF sorc, and only tell people to get through the last portal when the big guy is almost dead. Cuts down on the gold-gravity retard factor by a lot, and you don't need to worry about bringing along a healer or anything for the less self sufficient party members.

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Dracosanct Ex Member	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #44 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 11:43pm	Print Post
	Invis+web+firewall+ooze puppet+wail+CoD = easy trip to Garamol. Item for Fear immunity+firewall+Eladar's = easy Garamol kill


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Strakeln Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Lumberjack Posts: 12345 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2009	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #45 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 12:01am	Print Post
	I used to use weakening of enfeebling on the spells, get them to the point that they can't cast and they're tame little lanterns.

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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #46 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 5:41am	Print Post
	I used to charm the oozes. Then I found out wizards cannot inscribe scrolls from the portable hole because they don't need them.

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Crazeee Waterworks Kobold Offline I Am Drama! Posts: 161 Location: Khyber Joined: Feb 14^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #47 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 6:38am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 5:41am: I used to charm the oozes. This might be a great idea for ETK, but for subT runs it's easier to just FF/run past them. It's not like there is any reason to stay there.
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #48 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 6:53am	Print Post
	Crazeee wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 6:38am: This might be a great idea for ETK, but for subT runs it's easier to just FF/run past them. It's not like there is any reason to stay there. You obviously do not how to grief. I forgive you, this time.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Dracosanct Ex Member	Re: So...icy runs, I'm probably dumb. Reply #49 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:15am	Print Post
	Crazeee wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 6:38am: This might be a great idea for ETK, but for subT runs it's easier to just FF/run past them. It's not like there is any reason to stay there.


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