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Cursed crypt...duo at level elite...bleh
Mar 12th, 2012 at 10:01am
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A friend and I tried this several times on our artificers and failed for different reasons. No CC, scrolling flesh to stone was useless.

One run was almost perfect...found the jeweled key in the first cell checked, body pulled the 2 projections flawlessly. Body pulled at the end but my partner started kiting and pulled the SF which pretty quickly spelled doom. He also wasn't confident enough for us to split and check the cloisters separately.

I did finally figure out that opening a door and hitting invis saves some time.

Aside from bringing CC is there anything else to make that less painful? We stopped to kill every spawn on the way as I wanted to avoid DA. We did learn that the silver flame in the cloisters are leashed. Haste/invis?
  
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Re: Cursed crypt...duo at level elite...bleh
Reply #1 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 10:26am
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On normal i could sneak in to grab the key on my fighter with no points in move silently and heavy armor without waking them up.

Maybe their listen scores are low enough on elite that a +10 MS item is enough.

If you manage to kill no other silver flames until the end fight you could just kill the casters down there.
Do you get additional xp for not killing any silver flames?

I'm pretty sure some of the skeletons won't pop up if you run around with invisibility.
  

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Reply #2 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 10:29am
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If I have to solo it I use invisibility rampantly.  It's timed so I try to zerg the first part more or less.  A couple of pointers that come to mind:

1. The skellies spawn but don't aggro if they don't see you.  I typically run through the middle with invis.

2. The silver flame controlled by the projections don't have to be aggroed.  The cannot see an invis/sneaking player, but the projection can.  To that end using invis and then sneaking up to the projection until he notices, then backing up to the far pillars works well.  You don't have to fight the silver flame then, and can use aoe damage like your flame turret to make short work of him.

3. The doors in the cloisters are a pain in the butt.  many times you can pick up a chest at the door before opening it by using the backspace key.  It doesn't work every time, but often enough to where it's my preferred method.

4. After clearing the projections, a haste pot/spell and a jump pot/spell is enough to clear the jumps without falling through the green floor.  Makes the two rooms with jumps go fast.  It also allows one to solo the two lever room.

5. To save yourself grief at the end - try going into sneak mode at the dropdown with invis active.  if you face away from the dropdown and push against the wall heading down you will end up at the far wall.  The silver flame cannot see you there as long as you hug the wall.  aoe makes short work of the ghosties ( I use a firewall scroll).  Using the invis, then sneak just a bit forward will pull the vamp without the silver flame. 

Using flesh to stone usually requires debuffing or a dc arcane to pull off as the silver flame guys saves are stupid high.  Web and run as they typically yellow ball and/or lose you in the halls leading back to the middle.

Anyway, what I posted is somewhat redundant, but can be helpful.
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 10:38am
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Madcow430 wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 10:29am:
Anyway, what I posted is somewhat redundant, but can be helpful.


Thanks for confirming the non-aggro of the skeletons when invis (and not running into them, of course). I'll try that next.
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 11:23am
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If you aggro the ghosts in the final room by touching them (still in invis/sneak) it will aggro Maldetto without aggroing the SF. Body pulling in the end room is slightly more risky than aggroing ghosts because you have to get closer to the SF.

Standard procedure on Sarlona is to featherfall in sneak+invis and push into the SE corner of the room and then stay in that corner for the rest of the fight. You might have to have one person move out of the corner a bit (again, still sneaking and invis) in order to get a ghost to run into you.
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Reply #5 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 11:48am
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Had a pug guy once step into the quest and summon a skeleton.  ()#*$_)#(*$@_(#)$
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 11:53am
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Had a pug guy once step into the quest and summon a skeleton.  ()#*$_)#(*$@_(#)$


Just cast DW on it if the summoner is using aura Wink
  

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Reply #7 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 11:55am
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Did this happen?  I don't remember this at all.  Sad
  

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Re: Cursed crypt...duo at level elite...bleh
Reply #8 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 12:13pm
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cdr wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 11:23am:
If you aggro the ghosts in the final room by touching them (still in invis/sneak) it will aggro Maldetto without aggroing the SF. Body pulling in the end room is slightly more risky than aggroing ghosts because you have to get closer to the SF.

Standard procedure on Sarlona is to featherfall in sneak+invis and push into the SE corner of the room and then stay in that corner for the rest of the fight. You might have to have one person move out of the corner a bit (again, still sneaking and invis) in order to get a ghost to run into you.


I generally body pulled while invis'd, still in the air on the way down. 
Invis, have everyone else head for the corner, and then I drop straight down until Maldetto says something. That's the trigger there (and in the other two vampire rooms) that he's active, and you can then float away to the corner without attracting any of the silver flame.

  

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Reply #9 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 12:26pm
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Osharan Tregarth wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 12:13pm:
I generally body pulled while invis'd, still in the air on the way down. 
Invis, have everyone else head for the corner, and then I drop straight down until Maldetto says something. That's the trigger there (and in the other two vampire rooms) that he's active, and you can then float away to the corner without attracting any of the silver flame.



Hadn't seen anyone try that, but I suppose it's fine as long as you're practiced at it. Still more risky (easier to fuck up) than ghost aggroing.
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 2:07pm
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Oakianus wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 11:55am:
Did this happen?  I don't remember this at all.  

Sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 2:10pm
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hahahaha, that was so fucking golden.  OMG.  And then we failed by like 20 seconds.  Sad  I could have /cut.
  

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Reply #12 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 2:44pm
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LOL, how many times did we yell at that guy?
  

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Reply #13 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 2:53pm
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I was honestly expecting you to ask about jumping again.
  
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Eladiun wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 2:44pm:
LOL, how many times did we yell at that guy?

I lost my voice.  Then I would sweat re-living it when, for a week after, you would send me tells saying, "DON'T KILL THE SILVER FLAME!!!"
  
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Reply #15 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 4:19pm
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I was honestly expecting you to ask about jumping again.


I wouldn't want Gawna to actually pee herself. I think the jumping question got answered pretty thoroughly.
  
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Reply #16 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 6:47pm
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I wouldn't want Gawna to actually pee herself. I think the jumping question got answered pretty thoroughly.

I wrapped my computer chair and work area in plastic, so we're all good now.  Feel free to evacuate my bladder as needed.
  
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Reply #17 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 6:51pm
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Reply #18 - Mar 13th, 2012 at 10:04pm
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You don't need to use invisibility, you can use sneak to avoid the aggro of the silver flame in the cloisters as long as you avoid line of sight and dont enter the rooms. if the key chest is in a room with the silver flame you can just run back to the center until they chain back.
  
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