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Advice on ToD set for ranged/casting Arti
Mar 15th, 2012 at 10:40am
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Re: Advice on ToD set for ranged/casting Arti
Reply #1 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 10:41am
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AA set gives you 10% RoF increase that stacks with haste (doesn't with Ranger Capstone stupidly enough) so it's probably better damage than Shintao as long as your to-hit is fine.

For ring-belt set -  Frenzied berserker.
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 10:45am
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I don't have an Arti yet, but my first thought was Rakshirs?

Int is important to Artis and the Archmagi and 5% + 0.5 multiplier for BB and whatever other damage spells they use can't hurt.
  

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Reply #3 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 10:50am
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Just roll on every ring. Collect em all!
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 11:22am
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I wear the kensei necklace because endless counts as an action boost
  

                                                                      
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Reply #5 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 11:52am
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Didn't Dark-Star test the AA set and found out that it didn't do shit for arties?

I'm planning to do Shintao set + Epic Ring of the Stalker, using the belt slot for some Green Steel.
  

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Re: Advice on ToD set for ranged/casting Arti
Reply #6 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 12:38pm
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Calvet wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 10:45am:
I don't have an Arti yet, but my first thought was Rakshirs?

Int is important to Artis and the Archmagi and 5% + 0.5 multiplier for BB and whatever other damage spells they use can't hurt.

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Reply #7 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 1:32pm
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I'm looking at rahkir's ring for 9 int and gilvanor's for 9 dex. Then torc and a gs conc opp belt.

I don't see any of the tod sets as particularly over useful like they are on some builds. Or maybe I just hate tod right now amd don't wanna run it too much.
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 2:14pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 10:41am:
AA set gives you 10% RoF increase that stacks with haste (doesn't with Ranger Capstone stupidly enough) so it's probably better damage than Shintao as long as your to-hit is fine.

For ring-belt set -  Frenzied berserker.

Does it stack with abbot quiver?
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 4:23pm
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Found Dark-Star's post on the topic of the AA set: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=354448

TL;DR: It doesn't stack with Armor of Speed or Haste for repeaters, making it all but useless for Arties.
  

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Reply #10 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 5:22pm
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TY for responses.
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 6:15pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 10:41am:
AA set gives you 10% RoF increase that stacks with haste (doesn't with Ranger Capstone stupidly enough) so it's probably better damage than Shintao as long as your to-hit is fine.

For ring-belt set -  Frenzied berserker.


Last I read, speed bonuses do not help repeater rate of fire at all.

Also, more data is needed on the AA set stacking with Ranger capstone. Numbers collected from multiple sources varied on if there was a stacking effect or not.... I wonder if the new effects channel will tell us for sure...
  
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Reply #12 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 6:17pm
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Never mind, it was rate of fire for fusilade not being affected is what I was thinking of.
  
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Reply #13 - Mar 16th, 2012 at 3:42pm
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Not really sure how much my experience counts due to the fact that my Pew Pew is the last one left of its kind (on my server anyhow).

But AA set speed increase is definitely better than the +2 dam from the Shintao set. This was a grade A pain in the butt because it took me 100 TOD runs to get Kyosho's only to find out i need'nt have bothered
  
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Reply #14 - Mar 16th, 2012 at 4:21pm
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Kracky wrote on Mar 16th, 2012 at 3:42pm:
Not really sure how much my experience counts due to the fact that my Pew Pew is the last one left of its kind (on my server anyhow).

But AA set speed increase is definitely better than the +2 dam from the Shintao set. This was a grade A pain in the butt because it took me 100 TOD runs to get Kyosho's only to find out i need'nt have bothered


See above posts about how the AA set doesn't stack with Armor of Speed for repeaters.
  

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Re: Advice on ToD set for ranged/casting Arti
Reply #15 - Mar 16th, 2012 at 6:14pm
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Kracky wrote on Mar 16th, 2012 at 3:42pm:
This was a grade A pain in the butt because it took me 100 TOD runs to get Kyosho's only to find out i need'nt have bothered

That's really weird. You're the one who passed me (my monk Arkat) my Kyosho's in the chest a couple of months after ToD came out!

Not sure if you were on as Zexxi though.  Embarrassed
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Re: Advice on ToD set for ranged/casting Arti
Reply #16 - Mar 19th, 2012 at 6:15pm
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I used the quiver of alacrity for the boost myself,
even though you can craft it on your rune arm aswell.
So AA set is highly overrated for a artificer.

Would suggest going high dex and int myself, so you can keep your int to damage buff on a very long time.
You should be able to hit things on epic reliably if you have attack bonus or some exceptional dex slotted.

Doublecross bow can be handy for the general trash mobs
  
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Reply #17 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 9:55am
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Vissarion wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 11:52am:
Didn't Dark-Star test the AA set and found out that it didn't do shit for arties?

I'm planning to do Shintao set + Epic Ring of the Stalker, using the belt slot for some Green Steel.


This.  Slotting is so difficult for this type of toon.  Between really wanting to fit in a most likely crafted Greater Evocation Focus, the really nice effect on the Frozen Tunic, Epic Ring of the Stalker, Windhowler Bracers, Exc. Int somewhere, Exc. Dex if you can find a slot, strength somewhere (just because you probably don't have enough to carry anything without a str item or bull's str spell)...con, gfl, etc, etc...it just gets tough to find slots for everything you want to fit in.  Neck slot for the alchemist's pendant or kensei neck gives you more EF but takes up one of the two ToD sets.  Belt for GS in this case makes a lot of sense.  You can run the Tinker's set in Goggles/Gloves but goggles are usually a prime GS slot.  Using helmet/belt instead addresses that issue.

For 2nd ring then you could do something like Greater Evocation Focus of Persuasion (since bunny hat is no longer the no-brainer it used to be given that the spider mask's +1 would stack with persuasion).  I know that right now at least I have trouble getting to 39 UMD unless I'm using my purely UMD gear as I had to sacrifice my +sp/cha item for the Tinker's set.

There are plenty of ways to gear out of course but Arti's want so many different things that changing one piece start the dominoes falling until all your gear needs redone.  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #18 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 5:17pm
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The issues with arty gear stems from having 4 important stats and another semi important one. The only other class that comes close to this is monks, and even they only have 3 with 1 that needs slight emphasis.

Have you tried gearing a monk pre-cannith challenges? Artys are harder than that.
  
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Reply #19 - Mar 22nd, 2012 at 9:21am
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The issues with arty gear stems from having 4 important stats and another semi important one. The only other class that comes close to this is monks, and even they only have 3 with 1 that needs slight emphasis.

Have you tried gearing a monk pre-cannith challenges? Artys are harder than that.


Arti's actually make me consider wand-whipping the +4 stat spells.  It's that bad.
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Reply #20 - Mar 22nd, 2012 at 9:31am
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Darkrok wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 9:21am:
Arti's actually make me consider wand-whipping the +4 stat spells.  It's that bad.


I actually finally resorted to doing a little bit of that because it was easier than shuffling metric fucktons of enhancement bonus gear through the various slots with the utility stuff you already need as a trap monkey and risking accidentally leaving the WIS item off prior to needing a higher will save or swapping out the +6 dex item for the open lock and suddenly whiffing more than a team full of little leagers playing tee-ball because you're using insightful damage instead of insightful strikes.

Easier to carry a few wands and only have to gear swap a few pieces rather than fill a whole tab with extra gear and swap out your whole fucking character sheet every 3 minutes.
  
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Reply #21 - Mar 22nd, 2012 at 9:40am
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I have bulls strength spell slotted on my arty for the +4 str. It's fucking ridiculous until you get that uberz perfect epic setup. I'm hoping it all pays off.
  
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Reply #22 - Mar 22nd, 2012 at 9:47am
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I have bulls strength spell slotted on my arty for the +4 str. It's fucking ridiculous until you get that uberz perfect epic setup. I'm hoping it all pays off.


Thankfully, there's not much in the second level spells that's useful unless you're playing a warforged arti or actually give two shits about your dog.
  
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