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Re: Why is it that players find this but QA/devs don't
Reply #175 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 10:40am
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Hi Welcome wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 8:07am:
Skill checks don't auto fail on a 1.

Your DM's were weak.  Chances are rolling a 1 in combat would net you an injury.  Rolling a 1 with a vorpal/sharpness generally netted you a funeral.  Auto fails applied in any situation that meant life/death for the PC.
  
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Reply #176 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 10:43am
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Aeolwind wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 10:40am:
Your DM's were weak.  Chances are rolling a 1 in combat would net you an injury.  Rolling a 1 with a vorpal/sharpness generally netted you a funeral.  Auto fails applied in any situation that meant life/death for the PC.


You're thinking of a botched roll in the d10 systems.
  
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Reply #177 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 10:49am
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You're thinking of a botched roll in the d10 systems.

It punished players that practiced the '20 flip', cause if they screwed up, chances are, it is with a 1.

There were a number of my own NPC's that fell victim to their own vorpals.  I was fair.
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Reply #178 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 10:55am
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Yeah, closest I could remember offhand would be bit-masking, where you pretty much send a bunch of booleans to a client to tell it what part of your struct is coming next, but it doesn't quite fit...


This is pretty similar to something I had to recently fix:

Say you designate the first 12 bits (2048) of a 32-bit number (normal unsigned int) as a bitmask identifying an instance type.  You define the bitmasks as 0-2047 then do shift-left of 20 to move the masks into the right positions. 

Let's then say that you forget that you only have 0-2047 as available bitmasks, and someone later comes in and decides to use 2048.  When you do the shift-left of 20, you lose the most significant bit, so it effectively becomes the same as a bitmask of 0. 

If instance "types" were somehow dynamically allocated, but the number of instance types that could be generated exceeded the effective address space, you would get collisions and effectively share instances that shouldn't be shared.

Just one example of how something like this could lead to unexpected performance problems.
  

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Reply #179 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 11:18am
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Aeolwind wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 10:49am:
It punished players that practiced the '20 flip', cause if they screwed up, chances are, it is with a 1.

There were a number of my own NPC's that fell victim to their own vorpals.  I was fair.


Sort of I suppose.

In the d10 system, you would roll for a Target number on each die, then add up your total "successes". On contested rolls, ie combat, Attack vs. Dodge, grapples, etc you would compare rolls, defense always wins in a tie.

If you rolled 0 successes, you failed.

If there was a 1 in your roll though, you botched. Botching ewe bad, severity depending on your Storyteller (dm).

Climbing a sheer cliff during a sleet storm was difficult enough without worrying about the jagged rocks below. Then I botched a climb roll.

Guess I didn't really like my character much Sad
  
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Reply #180 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 11:30am
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Hi Welcome wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 8:07am:
Oh, you had to make up retarded shit to make an argument.

Here's the facts:

Skill checks don't auto fail on a 1.

Making up random bullshit is not a valid argument.

Why the fuck are these gimpy ass villagers an even remotely credible threat again? I farm them all for the delicious XP.


You expect basket weavers to know and understand the rules?


You make great jokes to be used and abused repeatedly!


So you're gimpy as fuck and only good for a TK missile?


Lol you fell into my cleverly "woven" trap, I epic trolled you by getting you to respond lolz. If you respond again it just shows how I manipulate you. If you remain silent you are obviously conceding defeat and thereby acknowledging my supremacy.
  

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Reply #181 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 11:44am
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JDollar wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 11:30am:
Lol you fell into my cleverly "woven" trap, I epic trolled you by getting you to respond lolz. If you respond again it just shows how I manipulate you. If you remain silent you are obviously conceding defeat and thereby acknowledging my supremacy.

  

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Re: Why is it that players find this but QA/devs don't
Reply #182 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 11:49am
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Aeolwind wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 10:40am:
Your DM's were weak.  Chances are rolling a 1 in combat would net you an injury.  Rolling a 1 with a vorpal/sharpness generally netted you a funeral.  Auto fails applied in any situation that meant life/death for the PC.


Our DMs were non retarded. Consequently, they didn't use dumbass fuckwit houserules that just say play a fucking caster, you fucking fucker. Also, Vorpal is shit, so why would you use it at all?

See, retards like you are meant to use shitty systems like this one:

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Sort of I suppose.

In the d10 system, you would roll for a Target number on each die, then add up your total "successes". On contested rolls, ie combat, Attack vs. Dodge, grapples, etc you would compare rolls, defense always wins in a tie.

If you rolled 0 successes, you failed.

If there was a 1 in your roll though, you botched. Botching ewe bad, severity depending on your Storyteller (dm).

Climbing a sheer cliff during a sleet storm was difficult enough without worrying about the jagged rocks below. Then I botched a climb roll.

Guess I didn't really like my character much


That way, you can have characters get worse at things as they get better at them because everyone is too fucking stupid to understand how math works!

JDollar wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 11:30am:
Lol you fell into my cleverly "woven" trap, I epic trolled you by getting you to respond lolz. If you respond again it just shows how I manipulate you. If you remain silent you are obviously conceding defeat and thereby acknowledging my supremacy.


Cute. Not only are you copying me, but you're copying Oak as well since he already has the be a cheap, incompetent knock off of me market cornered.

Cheap knock off of a cheap knock off?

Shouldn't you be getting sold by malware powered bots like the cheap whore you are? Or did they refuse to take you because you were damaged goods after I was done manhandling you?

Edit: Look who posted while I was writing this!

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When people bring in their personal lives, it is all fair game.  This board promotes trolling.  If you bring something up, expect it to be used against you at a later date if not immediately.  You want to bring up personal shit, well, that is your problem.


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Reply #183 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 11:58am
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I like the part where now you're using Strakeln's horrible derp image because you can't even be that creative.  Sad
  

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Reply #184 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 12:18pm
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Oakianus wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 11:58am:
I like the part where now you're using Strakeln's horrible derp image because you can't even be that creative. 


I liked the part where you failed at reading comprehension, thinking things through, and doing your fucking research again and thought he made that picture.



Here it is for you, in a form even you can understand:

Squelch: I'll make a... special image for him. I think you'll like it.
Squelch: http://s7.postimage.org/4smvi4x6f/Smoak_Herpaderp.png

Three different references here, all should be easy to understand.
Squelch: Though the real reason I'm messaging you again... that Oak Herpaderp picture. Are you going to use it for anything? If not I will but I don't want to mess with your game and vice versa.
Strake: The pic you sent me?  Go ahead and use it.
Squelch: Ok. I'll save it for the right time.
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When people bring in their personal lives, it is all fair game.  This board promotes trolling.  If you bring something up, expect it to be used against you at a later date if not immediately.  You want to bring up personal shit, well, that is your problem.


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Reply #185 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 12:22pm
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I clearly didn't give enough of a shit to go through that giant pyramid.  I was wondering why he'd be too lazy to add a transparent background.  Now that I know it was just your incompetence, it makes a lot more sense.
  

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Reply #186 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 12:25pm
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I am really slow, but even I can see how Strake played you. I am not really slow, but I wanted you to feel good about yourself. Why would he use that stupid ass picture? That is the most frivaldink idea I ever heard.
  

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Reply #187 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 12:33pm
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Oakianus wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 12:22pm:
I clearly didn't give enough of a shit to go through that giant pyramid.  I was wondering why he'd be too lazy to add a transparent background.  Now that I know it was just your incompetence, it makes a lot more sense. 


I was being lazy. Also, you neither deserve nor require much effort.
  

                           

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When people bring in their personal lives, it is all fair game.  This board promotes trolling.  If you bring something up, expect it to be used against you at a later date if not immediately.  You want to bring up personal shit, well, that is your problem.


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Reply #188 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 12:39pm
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Hi Welcome wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 12:18pm:
I liked the part where you failed at reading comprehension, thinking things through, and doing your fucking research again and thought he made that picture.

http://s7.postimage.org/4smvi4x6f/Smoak_Herpaderp.png

Here it is for you, in a form even you can understand:

Squelch: I'll make a... special image for him. I think you'll like it.
Squelch: http://s7.postimage.org/4smvi4x6f/Smoak_Herpaderp.png

Three different references here, all should be easy to understand.
Squelch: Though the real reason I'm messaging you again... that Oak Herpaderp picture. Are you going to use it for anything? If not I will but I don't want to mess with your game and vice versa.
Strake: The pic you sent me?  Go ahead and use it.
Squelch: Ok. I'll save it for the right time.


This is awesome.  Hi Welcome is still responding.  We're trolling him so bad!!!
  

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Reply #189 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 12:41pm
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popejubal wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 12:39pm:
This is awesome.  Hi Welcome is still responding.  We're trolling him so bad!!!

Fucking smashed.
  

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Reply #190 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 1:53pm
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Oh wait, you're still responding as well...

So what the fuck is this, a troll orgy?

  

                           

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Reply #191 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 2:23pm
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Hi Welcome wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 1:53pm:
Oh wait, you're still responding as well...

So what the fuck is this, a troll orgy?

http://s7.postimage.org/4smvi4x6f/Smoak_Herpaderp.png


I know, rite?

The fact that Oak is getting trolled by JonnyD at the same time as you're getting trolled is amazing.


Edit: Speling.
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Reply #192 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 3:25pm
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popejubal wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 2:23pm:
I know, rite?

The fact that Oak is getting trolled by JonnyD at the same time as you're getting trolled is amazing.


Edit: Speling.

Now I trolled you Pope. I didn't mean to my trolls are just that strong. It's like im a tuna fisherman... Sometimes dolphins get caught in the but in the end Its gotta be done so I get my sammich.
  

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Reply #193 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 3:44pm
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I just realized that Strakeln created a message board for people to post on, and we ALL FELL FOR IT.

This is the most elaborate troll I've ever seen.
  

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Reply #194 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 3:54pm
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JDollar wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 3:25pm:
Now I trolled you Pope. I didn't mean to my trolls are just that strong. It's like im a tuna fisherman... Sometimes dolphins get caught in the but in the end Its gotta be done so I get my sammich.


I know it's true, but every time I tried to type it, I started crying hot salty tears of shame.
  

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Reply #195 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 4:14pm
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Oakianus wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 3:44pm:
I just realized that Strakeln created a message board for people to post on, and we ALL FELL FOR IT.

This is the most elaborate troll I've ever seen.


I didnt want to be the one that told you this Oak, but it was Hi Welcome and Strakeln all along, they actually got every other member to sign up just so you would join, this place is like the Matrix you are Neo and I am Morpheus... you to just took the red pill.
  

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Reply #196 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 4:46pm
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JDollar wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 3:25pm:
Now I trolled you Pope. I didn't mean to my trolls are just that strong. It's like im a tuna fisherman... Sometimes dolphins get caught in the but in the end Its gotta be done so I get my sammich.


They have wimmens for that. Cheesy

JDollar wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 4:14pm:
I didnt want to be the one that told you this Oak, but it was Hi Welcome and Strakeln all along, they actually got every other member to sign up just so you would join, this place is like the Matrix you are Neo and I am Morpheus... you to just took the red pill.


You said you could keep a secret! Cheesy
  

                           

Epoch wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 5:15am:
When people bring in their personal lives, it is all fair game.  This board promotes trolling.  If you bring something up, expect it to be used against you at a later date if not immediately.  You want to bring up personal shit, well, that is your problem.


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Reply #197 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 5:24pm
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JDollar wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 4:14pm:
I didnt want to be the one that told you this Oak, but it was Hi Welcome and Strakeln all along, they actually got every other member to sign up just so you would join, this place is like the Matrix you are Neo and I am Morpheus... you to just took the red pill.

But I wanted the blue one!  Fuck!
  

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Reply #198 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 5:44pm
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I am confused. Who is wining?
  

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Reply #199 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 5:49pm
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JC wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 5:44pm:
I am confused. Who is wining?


Everyone.

Dammit, you trolled me.
  
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