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Re: Baldur's Gate enhanced version
Reply #50 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 10:32pm
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Felgor wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 10:27pm:
Rolling stats in BALDURS GATE for ages was my version of the Pokies. Strangely addictive.

In PnP we rolled 4d6 and dropped the lowest, 6 times. Rolling 3d6 for each stat and then having to change class because you had 11 int or str was not our idea of fun.

Point buy takes all the fun out of rolling stats for me, a bit of randomness is what DnD was built on.


We play 3.0/3.5 and this is how we roll stats. Never did the point buy thing in D&D, and I wouldn't want to. I have crazy good luck with dice, to the point that my DM made me roll every roll on the table with his dice. It didn't change anything. Grin
  
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Reply #51 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 10:39pm
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Hi Welcome wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 9:21am:
And then you actually look and there are both ways to get PCs better than that and enemies that have better than that, so suck it.

And then you look at multiple games officially based off of the rules and built with constant contact with Lake Geneva and you see a cap of -10.  Among other sources.

I'm more than willing to admit that I'm wrong if you can point to an enemy in officially published material that has someone/thing with an AC below -10.  But I thought TSR was pretty clear. 

Not that it ever came up in any 2nd ed games I played, as far as I can recall.  Then again, I think the highest level we ever reached was 13-14.
  
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Reply #52 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:45pm
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Oakianus wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 10:39pm:
I'm more than willing to admit that I'm wrong if you can point to an enemy in officially published material that has someone/thing with an AC below -10.  But I thought TSR was pretty clear. 

 


The dragon in Dragon Mountain had -11.
  
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Reply #53 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 12:10am
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Oakianus wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 10:39pm:
I'm more than willing to admit that I'm wrong if you can point to an enemy in officially published material that has someone/thing with an AC below -10.  But I thought TSR was pretty clear.


TSR2013A  Dieties and Demigods.

INDRA (god of the atmosphere, storms and rain)
Greater god J^. IX
ARMOR CLASS: -12
MOVE: 18"/24"
HIT POINTS: 400
NO. OF ATTACKS: 2
DAMAGE/AnACK: 3-30 (+ 14)
SPECIAL ATTACKS: See below
SPECIAL DEFENSES: +3 or better
weapon fo hit
MAGIC RESISTANCE: 80%
SIZE: M (6')
ALIGNMENT: Chaotic neutral
WORSHIPER'S ALIGN: Chaotic
neutral and farmers
SYMBOL: White elephant
PLANE: Limbo
CLERIC/DRUID: 25th level cleric
FIGHTER: 14th level fighter
MAGIC-USER/ILLUSIONIST: 20th level
in each
THIEF/ASSASSIN: Nil
MONK/BARD: 10th level bard
PSIONIC ABILITY: III
S:25( + 7, + 14,) 1:25 W:25 D: 25 C:25 CH:25
Indra, the first ruler of the gods, appears as a heavily muscled man. His
main attribute is the ability to create and control any form of weather at
will. He can also influence humans, animals, and plants as a staff of command.
He can shape change at will.
Indra wears + 4 plate mail and a +4 shield in battle. He plies a bow made
out of rainbows which shoots lightning bolts at the rate of two per melee
round, each doing 3-30 points of damage, with a 1,000 yard range (all of
which is treated as short range). For hand-to-hand combat, he uses a +3
flaming sword that does 3-30 points of damage per hit.
  
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Reply #54 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 12:19am
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Feldspaar wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:45pm:
The dragon in Dragon Mountain had -11.


He's correct

TSR 1089 Dragon mountain

INFRYRANA The Dragon
  
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Reply #55 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 12:21am
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There might be one or two more but a lot of the .pdf files I have for D&D are not word searchable right now. Was not able to cover many of the monstrous compendiums and some of the god books(F&A, DD,PFtF, P&P, and ect...) with word search and too lazy to do it the old fashioned way. And have not even touched searching for any of the module specific monsters like the above mentioned dragon. That would just take too damn long.
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Reply #56 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 12:30am
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Fair enough, then.  My bad.  Smiley
  
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Reply #57 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 12:38am
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Oakianus wrote on Mar 21st, 2012 at 12:30am:
Fair enough, then.  My bad.  Smiley 


NP.

Those two are pretty much kind of an exception I believe. There were only a little over half a dozen monsters I saw in my search with -10( Lloth being one. Her AC never changed between 1st and 2nd) and the most common was -2 and -4.

Yeah. Other people keep porn on computer. I've got over 9 gigs of D&D .PDF's. I think my priorities are a little mixed.
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Reply #58 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 12:57am
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Oakianus wrote on Mar 21st, 2012 at 12:30am:
Fair enough, then.  My bad.  Smiley 


Don't worry.  We're MORE than willing to admit when you're wrong.   Wink
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Reply #59 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 1:00am
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I'd like to go on record stating that you are ALL wrong, and that the correct armor class cap is LO. 



If you were playing Bard's tale, and not D&D.
  
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Reply #60 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 1:30am
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woody wrote on Mar 21st, 2012 at 12:38am:
NP.

Those two are pretty much kind of an exception I believe. There were only a little over half a dozen monsters I saw in my search with -10( Lloth being one. Her AC never changed between 1st and 2nd) and the most common was -2 and -4.

Yeah. Other people keep porn on computer. I've got over 9 gigs of D&D .PDF's. I think my priorities are a little mixed.

Or a little awesome! 

Nah, probably mixed.  At best. 

Osharan Tregarth wrote on Mar 21st, 2012 at 1:00am:
I'd like to go on record stating that you are ALL wrong, and that the correct armor class cap is LO. 



If you were playing Bard's tale, and not D&D.

Pure fucking class. 

I played so much Bard's Tale III.  I started when I was like 8.  I remember the day that I thought to type "CHAOS" to the priest and everything started to change.  It still took me fucking months to get to Arborea.  I think I had the official hint book by then.
  
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Reply #61 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 1:38am
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Oakianus wrote on Mar 21st, 2012 at 1:30am:
Or a little awesome! 

Nah, probably mixed.  At best. 

Pure fucking class. 

I played so much Bard's Tale III.  I started when I was like 8.  I remember the day that I thought to type "CHAOS" to the priest and everything started to change.  It still took me fucking months to get to Arborea.  I think I had the official hint book by then. 


I picked up The Bard's Tale on my Iphone/Ipad a little while back.  (the game that was released on the xbox/playstation in '04 or so).  They just did an update last week to add in a port of the original bard's tale game as well. 

I started it up a couple of days ago, but the screen was pretty cramped on my phone when the virtual keyboard was up.  I'll have to try it again when I can steal my wife's Ipad back from her.
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Reply #62 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 4:08am
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Osharan Tregarth wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 3:12am:
Like the original Wizardry game?


Ahhh those were the days
  
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Reply #63 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 4:58am
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popejubal wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 2:20pm:
You think players should be allowed to move their stats?  Pussy.

If Gary had wanted you to have that 12 (your highest roll on the 3d6 among those 6 stats) in a stat other than Cha, then the dice would have come up 12 on some other stat.


If you don't want to spend an hour making characters yes.  I also don't enjoy them purposefully killing their characters and making ones that will do decently with the stat rollups.  I don't play the game to sit there as they make characters for two hours.
  
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Reply #64 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 11:36am
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Felgor wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 10:27pm:
Rolling stats in BALDURS GATE for ages was my version of the Pokies. Strangely addictive.

In PnP we rolled 4d6 and dropped the lowest, 6 times. Rolling 3d6 for each stat and then having to change class because you had 11 int or str was not our idea of fun.

Point buy takes all the fun out of rolling stats for me, a bit of randomness is what DnD was built on.


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Oakianus wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 10:39pm:
And then you look at multiple games officially based off of the rules and built with constant contact with Lake Geneva and you see a cap of -10.  Among other sources.


If you base it on the games you also see a lot of -12 to -15 as the cap.

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I'm more than willing to admit that I'm wrong if you can point to an enemy in officially published material that has someone/thing with an AC below -10.  But I thought TSR was pretty clear. 


Multiple types of dragons.

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Not that it ever came up in any 2nd ed games I played, as far as I can recall.  Then again, I think the highest level we ever reached was 13-14. 


Given that those levels are about equal to 20 in modern editions it doesn't matter. If it didn't come up it's because no one was trying hard enough.

You should blame your parents.

woody wrote on Mar 21st, 2012 at 12:38am:
Yeah. Other people keep porn on computer. I've got over 9 gigs of D&D .PDF's. I think my priorities are a little mixed.


Hard drives being what they are, have both.

Osharan Tregarth wrote on Mar 21st, 2012 at 1:00am:
I'd like to go on record stating that you are ALL wrong, and that the correct armor class cap is LO. 



If you were playing Bard's tale, and not D&D.


And the Wizardry games. That's just a display cap though. You still get the full benefit, they just didn't have enough room for three characters under AC.
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Reply #65 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 12:12pm
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Feldspaar wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:45pm:
The dragon in Dragon Mountain had -11.

I used that dungeon twice to end 2 gaming groups by obliterating the party.  Nothing more gratifying as DM when the realization sets in on your party that they've spent all these months/years on these characters to become kobold food.
  
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Reply #66 - Mar 22nd, 2012 at 12:02pm
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Osharan Tregarth wrote on Mar 21st, 2012 at 1:38am:
I picked up The Bard's Tale on my Iphone/Ipad a little while back.  (the game that was released on the xbox/playstation in '04 or so).  They just did an update last week to add in a port of the original bard's tale game as well. 

I started it up a couple of days ago, but the screen was pretty cramped on my phone when the virtual keyboard was up.  I'll have to try it again when I can steal my wife's Ipad back from her.



Oh, is the iPad version workable? Debating getting it as a thing I can play when hubby's in a snit about me "spending all my time at the computer and not talking to him" Cheesy
  
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Reply #67 - Mar 22nd, 2012 at 12:37pm
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Totally wrong. TOTALLY WRONG.  For succesfull PnP roleplaying following is needed:

1) A whole sasion for rolling the characters, whining constantly to the game master. It is mandatory that one player is not present and will roll his PC in front of some trusty witness (for example, his dog). He will roll an uber PC but he will swear that it was all legal. This will cause more whining.

2) Asuming you play every two weeks 4 hours, the beginning hour has to be spend discussing some important matters: Is homeopathy a scam? What frozen pizza is best?

3) The rules book is the HOLY FUCKING BIBLE. It is not a guide. From the resting 3 hours of gameplay, you have at least to spend one hour discussing with the game master, reading the rule book, and interpreting the rules to your favour.

L2P n00b


1.  Try traveler (80s Sci-fi rpg).  Expect it to take awhile as characters could die while being rolled up.  If you want to own a (pitifully weak) starship (required for the included adventure in one of the boxed sets, also gets things started pretty well), expect to bring a ream of paper: you will be going through a lot of characters.

2.  Note this is a minimum.  Expect various intoxicants to increase this.

3.  Old school (as in the AD&D Baldur's Gate is based on) DMs FTW.  Do not taunt old school DM.  AD&D (at least first edition) is heavily broken (mostly against players) and if you try to question a rule he will make you roll 12 consecutive times for your monthly "contact disease check" for the last year.  Then he will get nasty.
  
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Reply #68 - Mar 22nd, 2012 at 2:08pm
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Terebinthia wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 12:02pm:
Oh, is the iPad version workable? Debating getting it as a thing I can play when hubby's in a snit about me "spending all my time at the computer and not talking to him" Cheesy


I played it on my iphone4 sometimes, and on my wife's ipad2 the rest of the time.  With the game saves stored in the ICloud, it's a reasonably decent transition between the two.  I've had to refresh the save game listing a couple of times when switching between the two platforms, but that's about it.

I think I made it roughly halfway through before putting it back on the shelf.  I'll revisit it again when I'm out of town a few times later this year.
  
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Terebinthia wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 12:02pm:
Oh, is the iPad version workable? Debating getting it as a thing I can play when hubby's in a snit about me "spending all my time at the computer and not talking to him" Cheesy



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So, only for iPad and not PC?

Unless I missed something, that sucks and is stupid.
  
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So, only for iPad and not PC?

Unless I missed something, that sucks and is stupid.


I'm gonna go with "You missed something".  The part you quoted is talking about the bard's tale game they ported to Iphone/ipads earlier this year.
  
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Osharan Tregarth wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 5:08pm:
I'm gonna go with "You missed something".  The part you quoted is talking about the bard's tale game they ported to Iphone/ipads earlier this year.






Cool. I  didn't see any button to head to more info, but that is probably due to this amazing 10" screen.
  
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Reply #74 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 4:14pm
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