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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #50 - May 8^th, 2012 at 1:37pm	Print Post
	Quote: I love that he said none of the devs are completionists.� I don't think any of us are even sure they have capped characters. I am absolutely positive they have capped characters. I am also absolutely positive shroud norm is their endgame.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #51 - May 8^th, 2012 at 1:55pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 1:05pm: Look at a caster . . . anything in the ED that completely makes the 9 more spell pen you can get with PLs irrelevant?. My perspective is a bit skewed. My drow pale master has 3 wizard, 3 fvs and 2 sorc past lives.� Even with the Magister spell pen benefits, I'm seriously considering the benefits of TRing into an elf for the additional 4 spell pen available from enhancements.� Epic Drow are going to be all over the expansion, and I want to instakill them. It's not uncommon to encounter 49 SR in the current epic Drow content (SR = CR + 10 for Drow). Also, I'm currently halfway through my TR plan with 3x each wiz, sorc, fvs PLs for my 18/1/1 evoker FvS.� Even with the release of the Magister ED, I'm going to complete the remaining past lives.�


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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #52 - May 8^th, 2012 at 2:01pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 1:05pm: Look at a caster . . . anything in the ED that completely makes the 9 more spell pen you can get with PLs irrelevant? Melees . . . not so much.� �The stacking of multiple pally lives for stupid hjealing amp is probably the only one really worth doing. Lets start there... +5 to Caster Level +3 to Caster Level (School) +3 to DC (School) +6 to Casting Stat +2 to Casting Stat for Levels +200 SP +3 SP for Piercing Spell Craft Base SP Increase assuming 50 Int� vs 42 Int� = (25 + 9) * 20 = 680 - (20 + 9) * 16) = 216 (and 50 is probably low balling) So that's +8 to Spell Pen (+11 in School), +9 to DC's (+12 in School) , 416 SP...assorted abilities This doesn't account for new feats or Twists of fate or new gear. So, sure after you grind all that out TR for an extra +2 SP but to say it's isn't marginalized...and Wizard is one of the better past lives. Even fighter for Tactics, Legendary Dreadnought gives minimum +10 to DC's.� The extra 3 from Past Lives...meh.� Improved Sunder then Stunning Blow... +30 HP for Barb, meh.� Paly, Ranger, Rogue, Cleric...crap.� Monk +3 Damage...do you see how much damage you gain from Legendary Dreadnought.� +3 is a piss squirt in the ocean.
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	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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sweez Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 764 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #53 - May 8^th, 2012 at 2:03pm	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 1:37pm: I am absolutely positive they have capped characters.� I am also absolutely positive shroud norm is their endgame. I bet they save devils in p4 too


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Calvet Puppy Farmer Offline I take stroke pills! Posts: 1497 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Dec 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #54 - May 8^th, 2012 at 3:03pm	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 2:01pm: Lets start there... +5 to Caster Level +3 to Caster Level (School) +3 to DC (School) +6 to Casting Stat +2 to Casting Stat for Levels +200 SP +3 SP for Piercing Spell Craft Base SP Increase assuming 50 Int� vs 42 Int� = (25 + 9) * 20 = 680 - (20 + 9) * 16) = 216 (and 50 is probably low balling) So that's +8 to Spell Pen (+11 in School), +9 to DC's (+12 in School) , 416 SP...assorted abilities This doesn't account for new feats or Twists of fate or new gear. So, sure after you grind all that out TR for an extra +2 SP but to say it's isn't marginalized...and Wizard is one of the better past lives. Even fighter for Tactics, Legendary Dreadnought gives minimum +10 to DC's.� The extra 3 from Past Lives...meh.� Improved Sunder then Stunning Blow... +30 HP for Barb, meh.� Paly, Ranger, Rogue, Cleric...crap.� Monk +3 Damage...do you see how much damage you gain from Legendary Dreadnought.� +3 is a piss squirt in the ocean. I like the way they've done it. The differance between single life (Or maybe 1-2 TR) and a multi TR toon will be marginal. Some people are OCD about getting the last drop of POWER!!! from a toon and they can still do TRs until their eyes bleed for that extra bit. The ones who prefer endgame grinding won't "Have" to TR again and again and again if they don't feel like it and still be decent (Assuming they have some gear and havn't attended the Snootch school of DDO play).

	Epoch wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 1:22am: You do what i do when people say I don't have to drink pots? I dot the boss and use BBs on the trash and say, " Aww shucks, im outta sp." Quote: Now I am a very bad cleric. I just wait like a vulture for everyone to die. Light a man a fire and he will be warm for the night.� Light a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #55 - May 8^th, 2012 at 3:14pm	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 2:01pm: Lets start there... +5 to Caster Level +3 to Caster Level (School) +3 to DC (School) +6 to Casting Stat +2 to Casting Stat for Levels +200 SP +3 SP for Piercing Spell Craft Base SP Increase assuming 50 Int� vs 42 Int� = (25 + 9) * 20 = 680 - (20 + 9) * 16) = 216 (and 50 is probably low balling) So that's +8 to Spell Pen (+11 in School), +9 to DC's (+12 in School) , 416 SP...assorted abilities This doesn't account for new feats or Twists of fate or new gear. So, sure after you grind all that out TR for an extra +2 SP but to say it's isn't marginalized...and Wizard is one of the better past lives. Even fighter for Tactics, Legendary Dreadnought gives minimum +10 to DC's.� The extra 3 from Past Lives...meh.� Improved Sunder then Stunning Blow... +30 HP for Barb, meh.� Paly, Ranger, Rogue, Cleric...crap.� Monk +3 Damage...do you see how much damage you gain from Legendary Dreadnought.� +3 is a piss squirt in the ocean. SO it's looking like getting my Wizzy PLs on my Pale master are still worth it . . . and fuck everything else unless I want a clickie from something.


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sweez Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 764 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #56 - May 8^th, 2012 at 4:43pm	Print Post
	Calvet wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 3:03pm: I like the way they've done it. The differance between single life (Or maybe 1-2 TR) and a multi TR toon will be marginal. Some people are OCD about getting the last drop of POWER!!! from a toon and they can still do TRs until their eyes bleed for that extra bit. The ones who prefer endgame grinding won't "Have" to TR again and again and again if they don't feel like it and still be decent (Assuming they have some gear and havn't attended the Snootch school of DDO play). If you don't have a wiz PL you'll still be 1 dc behind what you should have, though Plus some of you are making dangerous assumptions, like destinies will be less grind than TRs (they probably won't) and new content will be more fun to run through than 850th run of wizking (it probably won't)


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Deeds Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 188 Joined: Nov 8^th, 2011	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #57 - May 8^th, 2012 at 7:32pm	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 2:01pm: Lets start there... +5 to Caster Level +3 to Caster Level (School) +3 to DC (School) +6 to Casting Stat +1 to Casting Stat for Levels +200 SP +3 SP for Piercing Spell Craft Base SP Increase assuming 50 Int� vs 42 Int� = (25 + 9) * 20 = 680 - (20 + 9) * 16) = 216 (and 50 is probably low balling) So that's +8 to Spell Pen (+11 in School), +9 to DC's (+12 in School) , 416 SP...assorted abilities This doesn't account for new feats or Twists of fate or new gear. So, sure after you grind all that out TR for an extra +2 SP but to say it's isn't marginalized...and Wizard is one of the better past lives. Even fighter for Tactics, Legendary Dreadnought gives minimum +10 to DC's.� The extra 3 from Past Lives...meh.� Improved Sunder then Stunning Blow... +30 HP for Barb, meh.� Paly, Ranger, Rogue, Cleric...crap.� Monk +3 Damage...do you see how much damage you gain from Legendary Dreadnought.� +3 is a piss squirt in the ocean. You only get +1 ability increase for epic levels. The formatting made it appear that you are getting 2 but you only get it at lvl 24. Like I posted in the other ed thread, this should put wf and humans on the same int modifier so only drow have a DC advantage (LOL).

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Deeds Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 188 Joined: Nov 8^th, 2011	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #58 - May 8^th, 2012 at 7:38pm	Print Post
	I also dont understand how you are calculating +9DC/+12DC in school. +6 Casting Stat = +3DC +1 Ability level up = +1DC (at best if it evens out your int) Chosen school= +3DC TOTAL = +4DC/+7DC chosen school Am i missing something here?

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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #59 - May 8^th, 2012 at 8:00pm	Print Post
	Deeds wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 7:38pm: I also dont understand how you are calculating +9DC/+12DC in school. +6 Casting Stat = +3DC +1 Ability level up = +1DC (at best if it evens out your int) Chosen school= +3DC TOTAL = +4DC/+7DC chosen school Am i missing something here? You're right. I mistakenly factored in Caster Level which only applies on the Spell Pen formula. A question I haven't seen answered is are they adding any spell levels.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Calvet Puppy Farmer Offline I take stroke pills! Posts: 1497 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Dec 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #60 - May 8^th, 2012 at 8:28pm	Print Post
	sweez wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 4:43pm: If you don't have a wiz PL you'll still be 1 dc behind what you should have, though� Plus some of you are making dangerous assumptions, like destinies will be less grind than TRs (they probably won't) and new content will be more fun to run through than 850th run of wizking (it probably won't) 1-2 TR can he handy I guess. As far as the grind goes, it probably will be more grindy than norm leveling, but can't see a first life lvl 25 being behind a multi TR lvl 20.

	Epoch wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 1:22am: You do what i do when people say I don't have to drink pots? I dot the boss and use BBs on the trash and say, " Aww shucks, im outta sp." Quote: Now I am a very bad cleric. I just wait like a vulture for everyone to die. Light a man a fire and he will be warm for the night.� Light a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
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sweez Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 764 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #61 - May 8^th, 2012 at 10:02pm	Print Post
	Well, no, not the 5 levels prolly, but multiple destinies and such are bound to be horribad Plus, look at the kind of content they've been making recently - would you rather run wizking or shady 800 times or something like say schemes/MA 400 times?


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Calvet Puppy Farmer Offline I take stroke pills! Posts: 1497 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Dec 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #62 - May 9^th, 2012 at 2:07am	Print Post
	sweez wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 10:02pm: Well, no, not the 5 levels prolly, but multiple destinies and such are bound to be horribad Plus, look at the kind of content they've been making recently - would you rather run wizking or shady 800 times or something like say schemes/MA 400 times? I'm not sure how they're going to work out epic xp. What content qualifies etc. If all current epics will count, it won't be so bad.

	Epoch wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 1:22am: You do what i do when people say I don't have to drink pots? I dot the boss and use BBs on the trash and say, " Aww shucks, im outta sp." Quote: Now I am a very bad cleric. I just wait like a vulture for everyone to die. Light a man a fire and he will be warm for the night.� Light a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
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Deeds Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 188 Joined: Nov 8^th, 2011	Re: Anyone catch this nugget by MadFloyd? Reply #63 - May 9^th, 2012 at 3:37am	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 8:00pm: You're right.� I mistakenly factored in Caster Level which only applies on the Spell Pen formula. A question I haven't seen answered is are they adding any spell levels. Ahh fuck i wish i was wrong LOL. I doubt they will increase spell levels but even if they do, whats it going to affect? Most damage spells except for polar ray are capped already (elec and cold dots are capped at lvl cl15).

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