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Reply #125 - May 23rd, 2012 at 3:10pm
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Personally I think of D3 right now as some framework, I guess cooler equipment is meant to be a selling factor for an upcoming expansion, so maybe a charm system (which was hinted. It's also only 5 classes, which don't even include the much beloved Paladin and/or Druid there we go for more selling points. Just my thoughts though.
  
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Reply #126 - May 23rd, 2012 at 3:21pm
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I know the game has some problems, but they all go away when you have a Demon Hunter and open up with "Rapid Fire" and have the "Fire Support" rune activated. A machine gun with fucking homing missiles. Come on. A fucking machine gun and homing missiles! I giggle like a little girl every time I fire the thing.
  

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Reply #127 - May 23rd, 2012 at 3:53pm
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I agree with Az - D3, for all its polish right now, is a shell.  It has a lot of filling-in to do - like the PvP and other classes. and as long as that filling in is free I won't complain and take it as it comes in.  Blizzard did periodic content updates for D2 for *years* after the release of the expansion, and I see no reason why D3 would be any different. 

I do want the cow level to return however.

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Reply #128 - May 23rd, 2012 at 7:09pm
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Eladiun wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 11:24am:
I use Bioware's Mobile Authenticator for Android with SWTOR.  It's nice and it's free.


I use biowares authenticator for swtor as well.  Thanks for the information about the authenticators though.  I will just use another one for blizzard.  I am not worried about keyloggers - I keep my gaming comp separated from my other comps.  The only thing it uses the internet for is to connect to the game server.
  

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Reply #129 - May 23rd, 2012 at 7:11pm
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Balthazar wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 12:44pm:
Yeah hes cool, the scoundral is lame for the most part. Running a monk though so what do i need another melee for. May switch back and forth a bit though to keep em all lvled up.


The templar is the shit.  I have him all heal specced and he keeps my monk alive pretty well.  The scoundrel though, he can push out some pretty good dps for a hireling.  I haven't tried the caster, she can suck it.

Also, no need to switch companions about, they all level together pretty much.
  

OnePercenter wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 9:41am:
I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

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Reply #130 - May 24th, 2012 at 2:18am
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Epoch wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 7:11pm:
The templar is the shit.  I have him all heal specced and he keeps my monk alive pretty well.  The scoundrel though, he can push out some pretty good dps for a hireling.  I haven't tried the caster, she can suck it.

Also, no need to switch companions about, they all level together pretty much. 


The caster can remove frozen status from you, if she feels like it that is. Her dazing and charming abilities help a lot on higher difficulities in act 2 with this fucking insects. Scoundrel sucks ass. Templar is a nice life saver but sucks at staying alive.

From what I've seen the hirelings you don't take with you can't reach your level they will be always one below you, so you gotta make 59 to 60 for all of them.
  
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Reply #131 - May 24th, 2012 at 4:03am
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The scoundrel pwns stuff on nightmare.  You speak crazy talk.
  

OnePercenter wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 9:41am:
I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

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Reply #132 - May 24th, 2012 at 6:10am
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Epoch wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 4:03am:
The scoundrel pwns stuff on nightmare.  You speak crazy talk.


You don't play one of those pacifistic 'No one can hurt me, I can hurt no one' monks, do you?
  
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Re: Diablo 3
Reply #133 - May 24th, 2012 at 7:09am
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Azuphle wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 6:10am:
You don't play one of those pacifistic 'No one can hurt me, I can hurt no one' monks, do you?


I have no idea what you are talking about.  My monk is the master of dps.  His issue  is the lack of defense and hp.  Which really only matters against certain random setup mob effects.  Just walked through Act 3.  Act 4 will be even easier.  Diablo is the biggest joke for a boss in this game.
  

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I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

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Reply #134 - May 24th, 2012 at 9:39am
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Re: Diablo 3
Reply #135 - May 24th, 2012 at 9:57am
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Carpone wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 9:39am:


Why use letters?
  

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Re: Diablo 3
Reply #136 - May 24th, 2012 at 9:59am
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stainer wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 9:57am:
Why use letters?



Because passwords are the only time people want to spell correctly.
  

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Reply #137 - May 24th, 2012 at 10:05am
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Epoch wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 9:59am:
Because passwords are the only time people want to spell correctly.


I am using the mobile authenticator, and the sms notification now. It isn't because I am afraid of getting hacked. I am worried some Chinese gold farmer will get executed for stealing my crappy gear.
  

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Re: Diablo 3
Reply #138 - May 24th, 2012 at 10:22am
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Carpone wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 9:39am:


*choke*

Here's the response from one of their devs:

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This is actually consistent with all of our Blizzard games. Try it in WoW and SC2 Smiley
                               


Wow, that's bad.
  

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Reply #139 - May 24th, 2012 at 10:35am
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Schmoe wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 10:22am:
Wow, that's bad.


Only if you are just using letters, have a short password, and use something that a dictionary attack would grab. It is 2012... people should know password security.

3445kardo11*! is a good password.
orange or ORANGE or oRanGe are all terribad passwords.

If you read the D3 forums it sounds like the people getting hacked are going to phishing sites, or are downloading trainers/cheats (as if the fucking game is to fucking hard).

I am serious there isn't a "hacking" problem. There is a "stupid user" problem.
  

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Reply #140 - May 24th, 2012 at 11:13am
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stainer wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 10:35am:
Only if you are just using letters, have a short password, and use something that a dictionary attack would grab. It is 2012... people should know password security.

3445kardo11*! is a good password.
orange or ORANGE or oRanGe are all terribad passwords.

If you read the D3 forums it sounds like the people getting hacked are going to phishing sites, or are downloading trainers/cheats (as if the fucking game is to fucking hard).

I am serious there isn't a "hacking" problem. There is a "stupid user" problem.


There's always a stupid user problem.  That's eternal.  I guarantee that some people who would never use a special character in a password will actually use capital letters, just because it's easy and they already use them all the time.  I'm having a hard time figuring out a legitimate technical reason there might be for making passwords case insensitive.  It seems to just make the system less secure while providing no benefit.

And with password crackers, there is a real difference between the inclusion or exclusion of capitol letters.  Assuming 26 letters, 10 digits, and no special characters, for an 8-character password:

Not case sensitive = 36! / (36 - 8)! = 36! / 28! = 1,220,096,908,800 = 1.22 x 10^12

Case sensitive = 62! / (62 - 8)! = 62! / 54! = 136,325,893,334,400 = 1.36 x 10^14

That's a difference of two orders of magnitude.  That means that a password cracker that could crack your "good" case-insensitive password in 4 hours would need 400 hours to crack your good case-sensitive password.  That's a big deal.

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I agree with your point, though, about phishing vs. cracking.  It sounds like this particular scenario is more a matter of cracking the user, not the password.
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Reply #141 - May 24th, 2012 at 11:14am
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Schmoe wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 11:13am:
That's a big deal.



How long to crack my authenticator?
  

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Reply #142 - May 24th, 2012 at 11:16am
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stainer wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 11:14am:
How long to crack my authenticator?



You know what I'm gonna crack?
  

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Reply #143 - May 24th, 2012 at 11:23am
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Schmoe wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 11:13am:
There's always a stupid user problem.  That's eternal.  I guarantee that some people who would never use a special character in a password will actually use capital letters, just because it's easy and they already use them all the time.  I'm having a hard time figuring out a legitimate technical reason there might be for making passwords case insensitive.  It seems to just make the system less secure while providing no benefit.

And with password crackers, there is a real difference between the inclusion or exclusion of capitol letters.  Assuming 26 letters, 10 digits, and no special characters, for an 8-character password:

Not case sensitive = 36! / (36 - 8)! = 36! / 28! = 1,220,096,908,800 = 1.22 x 10^12

Case sensitive = 62! / (62 - 8)! = 62! / 54! = 136,325,893,334,400 = 1.36 x 10^14

That's a difference of two orders of magnitude.  That means that a password cracker that could crack your "good" case-insensitive password in 4 hours would need 400 hours to crack your good case-sensitive password.  That's a big deal.

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I agree with your point, though, about phishing vs. cracking.  It sounds like this particular scenario is more a matter of cracking the user, not the password.


With modern processors an Alpha only 6 character password can be cracked in 90 minutes and an 8 character in 1.5 hours.
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Reply #144 - May 24th, 2012 at 11:29am
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Eladiun wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 11:23am:
With modern processors an Alpha only 6 character password can be cracked in 90 minutes and an 8 character in 1.5 hours.

What about timeouts for incorrect passwords? I can't think of a single place I go to where I would care if it got hacked that allows more than 3-5 attempts.
  
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Reply #145 - May 24th, 2012 at 11:34am
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So noone is going to go Hardcore Style?
  

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Reply #146 - May 24th, 2012 at 12:01pm
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Balthazar wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 11:34am:
So noone is going to go Hardcore Style?


I have a lvl 2 wiz Hardcore! (&%*(^$
  

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Reply #147 - May 24th, 2012 at 12:38pm
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Not anytime soon - I'm dedicating this weekend to DDO 25% xp to get all my bitches leveled.
  
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Reply #148 - May 24th, 2012 at 12:58pm
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If I'm around I'd like to hop on that XP train.  Talrok still needs 250k XP to cap!  I mean, I only started this TR a year ago...  Grin
  

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Reply #149 - May 24th, 2012 at 3:38pm
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Schmoe wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 12:58pm:
If I'm around I'd like to hop on that XP train.  Talrok still needs 250k XP to cap!  I mean, I only started this TR a year ago...  Grin

I think we're gonna do Hard Amrath tonight.  Maybe elite if Grace doesn't make me run with a group of Khyber Special Olympians.
  
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