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Bahgoon Stormreaver Piker Offline Get off my lawn! Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2011	How broke is the game currently? May 15^th, 2012 at 10:59am	Print Post
	Back from a short holiday. Given that I really dislike . . . 1) Randomly dying from 1498 points of falling damage 2) Getting stuck in geometry 3) Clearing a dungeon only to find the quest mob(s) stuck in geometry and undamageable 4) Zoning into a dungeon to find a red alert and every mob in the dungeon agroed on me . . . how playable is the game currently? It seems the bulk of the official forums whinge posts are about the above. Are these just the demented ramblings of the lunatic fringe or is it a sign that Diablo III is calling to me?

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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #1 - May 15^th, 2012 at 11:07am	Print Post
	The falling damage is real. Happens mostly if you're in the habit of jumping around a lot while you're moving through dungeons. Getting stuck is also real. Stay away from walls and keep any important mob or NPC away from walls. It seems to be mostly collisions (eg between players and mobs) that ends up with someone stuck in a wall. The red alert and mobs casting through walls was fixed with the hotfix, doesn't happen anymore. If you are on a high latency connection, the lag makes falling death and getting stuck more likely to happen.


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qwerty1234 Ex Member	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #2 - May 15^th, 2012 at 11:09am	Print Post
	They fixed #4 in about a day. #1 I've had happen/seen happen a couple of times, but only rarely. #2 has happened to me three or four times, but infrequently enough that /stuck or a well placed ddoor has been enough to escape. #3 has happened to me exactly once, although it was a hilariously unfortunate situation: shroud part 2, gnoll got stuck in a pillar. We completed anyway, thanks to the magic of hitboxes, but it took some time. In summary, the game isn't very broken atm. I wouldn't worry about it, although others may have had different experiences.


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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #3 - May 15^th, 2012 at 11:15am	Print Post
	Bahgoon wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 10:59am: Back from a short holiday. Given that I really dislike . . . 1) Randomly dying from 1498 points of falling damage Haven't seen, possibly fixed 2) Getting stuck in geometry Annoying but avoidable 3) Clearing a dungeon only to find the quest mob(s) stuck in geometry and undamageable Bothersome but not game breaking in most cases 4) Zoning into a dungeon to find a red alert and every mob in the dungeon agroed on me Fixed . . . how playable is the game currently? It seems the bulk of the official forums whinge posts are about the above. Are these just the demented ramblings of the lunatic fringe or is it a sign that Diablo III is calling to me?

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Bahgoon Stormreaver Piker Offline Get off my lawn! Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2011	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #4 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:13pm	Print Post
	Thanks all. May take a run at it tonight and see how high the frustration meter hits. A question I forgot to ask - How bad did the physics upgrade screw with ladders?

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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #5 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:27pm	Print Post
	Bahgoon wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:13pm: Thanks all. May take a run at it tonight and see how high the frustration meter hits. A question I forgot to ask� - How bad did the physics upgrade screw with ladders? The old ladder bug is practically nonexistant now - I've only had it happen one time since the physics update. On the other hand, there's a new ladder bug that can cause you to slide down a ladder when you try to jump on it. Seems to happen mostly only to players with a lot of latency (lag). Aiming for the very center of the ladder (as in not left/right) can mitigate.
	« Last Edit: May 15^th, 2012 at 12:28pm by cdr »

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Gawna Ex Member	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #6 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:51pm	Print Post
	I've gotten stuck a lot lately. It seems to happen when I get laggy, then rubberband into the wall. Got stuck in the lever in OOB, but /stuck fixed it. Epoch was nice enough to run back and point and laugh at me. Then was soloing in Rit Sac this weekend and, while fighting the first named gnoll, rubberbanded and was underneath that big rock. I was able to walk around under there, but couldn't get out. I tried /stuck, but was told I'd already used it that day, which is weird considering I hadn't used it since OOB 2 days before. It wasn't a big deal since it was the first fight so just had a do over.


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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #7 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:53pm	Print Post
	Quote: Then was soloing in Rit Sac How often do you solo the Sac?

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Gawna Ex Member	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #8 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:57pm	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:53pm: How often do you solo the Sac? Sometimes I duo!


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Bahgoon Stormreaver Piker Offline Get off my lawn! Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2011	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #9 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:58pm	Print Post
	Quote: � I tried /stuck, but was told I'd already used it that day, which is weird considering I hadn't used it since OOB 2 days before. I'm also hearing this a lot. Seems /stuck is on a 24 hour game time counter and not a real word clock. Or perhaps it is just borked in true Turbine fashion.

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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #10 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:58pm	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:53pm: How often do you solo the Sac? She probably isn't solo'g it as often as you are.

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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #11 - May 15^th, 2012 at 1:03pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:58pm: She probably isn't solo'g it as often as you are. Please, stop disrespecting my art.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Gawna Ex Member	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #12 - May 15^th, 2012 at 7:48pm	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 1:03pm: Please, stop disrespecting my art. You know what you can disrespect?


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Grace Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #13 - May 15^th, 2012 at 8:20pm	Print Post
	Having monsters get stuck in walls and screw up a completion isn't new to this update. I've had it happen on several occasions well before. I'm still waiting to experience the magical falling damage. If someone's gonna test that one out, it should be me.
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	JDollar wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 5:25pm: she's Kmack's property Quote: You're obviously important to the community.� And not just because your skin is so supple and soft and smells like honeysuckle and friendship. JDollar wrote on Jul 10^th, 2013 at 2:15am: To put in DnD terms Grace is a CR 60 EE Ball Busting Bitch
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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #14 - May 15^th, 2012 at 9:47pm	Print Post
	Grace wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 8:20pm: Having monsters get stuck in walls and screw up a completion isn't new to this update. I've had it happen on several occasions well before. I'm still waiting to experience the magical falling damage. If someone's gonna test that one out, it should be me. It could happen before - rarely - yes. The frequency of stuff going into walls is a whole new thing with the physics update, though. Prior to the physics update, I had only once been stuck in something ever - Harry teleporting me inside a pillar in p5. Now either myself or a mob is getting stuck every few hours of playtime.


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JakLee Bailiff Offline Monotremes and Money Posts: 1533 Location: Spokane Joined: Aug 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #15 - May 15^th, 2012 at 10:21pm	Print Post
	Quote: You know what you can disrespect? His art?

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furbyoats Stormreaver Piker Offline One stroke at a time... Posts: 607 Joined: Nov 14^th, 2010	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #16 - May 16^th, 2012 at 2:54am	Print Post
	I did a wiz king earlier and was kinda stuck in a wall but my screen mostly went grey. I could see my mini-map and move outside of the boundaries of the quest map freely. Then I was randomly ported out to the phoenix tavern (I believe I was bound there?).

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9988 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #17 - May 16^th, 2012 at 4:17am	Print Post
	Bahgoon wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 10:59am: 1) Randomly dying from 1498 points of falling damage 2) Getting stuck in geometry 3) Clearing a dungeon only to find the quest mob(s) stuck in geometry and undamageable 4) Zoning into a dungeon to find a red alert and every mob in the dungeon agroed on me . . . how playable is the game currently? 1) never encountered so far. 2) last mob stuck in wall was a devil in shroud p4... month ago... just left him alone a few minute and he ported back to where we were. Not a problem. 3) never encountered so far. 4) never encountered so far. Admintedly, I'm spending a lot of time in SWTOR compared to what I used to spend in DDO... but that's because I want to get to see as much as possible of the game while my time card last.

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sweez Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 764 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #18 - May 16^th, 2012 at 7:23am	Print Post
	furbyoats wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 2:54am: I did a wiz king earlier and was kinda stuck in a wall but my screen mostly went grey. I could see my mini-map and move outside of the boundaries of the quest map freely. Then I was randomly ported out to the phoenix tavern (I believe I was bound there?). Yep happened to me the other day. It ported me back to Korthos, even though I was bound in the 12 Was funny cause it was in a pug and I was accused of piking!
	« Last Edit: May 16^th, 2012 at 7:24am by sweez »

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Grace Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #19 - May 16^th, 2012 at 7:47am	Print Post
	cdr wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:47pm: It could happen before - rarely - yes. The frequency of stuff going into walls is a whole new thing with the physics update, though. Prior to the physics update, I had only once been stuck in something ever - Harry teleporting me inside a pillar in p5. Now either myself or a mob is getting stuck every few hours of playtime. Maybe. I actually haven't seen it at all since the update, but I had it happen multiple times in about a two-week span previous to the update. Are you sure it's not single-perspective bias? I obviously can't say for sure, but I know that I've been running a ton and no one has had this happen. I'm sure it IS happening, I'm just not sure it's definitely happening more as an aggregate over the entire server than it was before.

	JDollar wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 5:25pm: she's Kmack's property Quote: You're obviously important to the community.� And not just because your skin is so supple and soft and smells like honeysuckle and friendship. JDollar wrote on Jul 10^th, 2013 at 2:15am: To put in DnD terms Grace is a CR 60 EE Ball Busting Bitch
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spathic Stocky Greenis Offline Taunting the stupid since before you were born. Posts: 1623 Location: Shenandoah valley Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #20 - May 16^th, 2012 at 9:25am	Print Post
	I got stuck in a wizard king too. Wondering if there are specific quests its more prone to happen in, or if its a lag artifact when the game reconciles your position as inside of an object and likely to happen anywhere. Took something like 3200 points of falling damage in one of the depths quests. Only time that's happened to me so far.

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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #21 - May 16^th, 2012 at 10:05am	Print Post
	Grace wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 7:47am: Maybe. I actually haven't seen it at all since the update, but I had it happen multiple times in about a two-week span previous to the update. Are you sure it's not single-perspective bias?. There's tons and tons of people complaining about it on the forums. If there's a bias, it's probably yours, sadly. spathic wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 9:25am: I got stuck in a wizard king too. Wondering if there are specific quests its more prone to happen in, or if its a lag artifact when the game reconciles your position as inside of an object and likely to happen anywhere. I've had it happen twice in Lava Caves, but that's probably due to the amount of Lava Caves I've been playing. Otherwise it's been in a different quest every time - often times nine farms of a quest will be fine and one out of ten someone or something gets stuck.
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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #22 - May 16^th, 2012 at 10:12am	Print Post
	I was clipped with the falling damage in one of the shadow tombs in Necro. Stepped off the small 6 inch dais at the start, fell and broke my great grandchild's neck by taking 2874 damage. I know, I know, I should have taken more toughness and put that extra point in con.


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LordPiglet Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 660 Location: H-Town Joined: Jan 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #23 - May 16^th, 2012 at 12:05pm	Print Post
	I had a buddy fall through a hole in the sands yesterday, somewhere on the undead side, not sure where he ended up. At least one other person got stuck in a quest and walked their way, but ended up outside of it.


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Osharan Tregarth Horoluth Raider Offline I'm an ass... Deal with it. Posts: 2663 Location: Fresno Joined: Aug 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: How broke is the game currently? Reply #24 - May 16^th, 2012 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	spathic wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 9:25am: I got stuck in a wizard king too. Wondering if there are specific quests its more prone to happen in, or if its a lag artifact when the game reconciles your position as inside of an object and likely to happen anywhere. I haven't seen the falling damage thing myself, but I did end up stuck inside a pile of rubble once last life. A quick DDoor scroll later, and I was back in business.

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