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As you first step in make sure you cast mass deathward on the party.

In the first part position yourself near where the caster spawns. As the ritual gets underway put a symbol of death over where they will spawn then you should be able to destroy them with implosion. Other than that spot heal and let your CC/melee handle the rest.

In the run to the bank your party probably won't expect too much of you other than the occasional spot heal.

In the bank you should be able to keep most people healed with heal scrolls and perhaps the occasional mass heal on the party. Use DP on bloodplate in-between hjeals. Avoid BB or cometfall in this quest as all you will do is draw the aggro of the devils. Let the CC's take care of trash and the melee will clean up in-between rounds with bloodplate.

In the next part use searing light to draw razorarm close enough to get a full stack of DP's on him. Once he climbs the stairs hide behind your melee and keep the dots coming. CC should handle the trash, just make sure to keep your aura up and occasionally check the red bar. Once the fight with razor arm is over go ahead and use the shrine at the bottom making sure you pick up break enchantment. (You can use the shrine in the rusty nail if you have to ddoor back for mana.)

In the final boss fight one healer will be assigned to the tank and the other to the party. If you are assigned to the tank you should be able to keep them up with scrolls for the most part. If you don't know the visual cues for break enchantment just let the party know and be ready to cast it when they call for it. Keep your aura up and avoid drawing any aggro when trash spawns since your only important role is keeping the tank up. If you are assigned to the party then use heal scrolls and remind anyone taking lots of damage to reposition themselves on the "back" end of the boss. Use mass heals as necessary. When trash spawns you can use implosion if it's effective otherwise save your mana since you'll be relieving the tank healer if they need to shrine. DI is nice to use on the tank, even though they'll lose aggro if they drop they won't actually die so they won't lose ship buffs/any other buffs the party has cast on them.

Goaticorn wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 6:22pm:


If it was a different raid, maybe. I'm not going to run all the hell out to VoD to fail.

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I almost always do. Free healing ftw.

Reaver's Fate

Could probably use aura/burst heals and do just fine in this one. But if you don't want to pike it...

Run out behind the whoever has aggro and grab your charge. Use your unlimited power to keep the party healed/buffed while handing out whatever form of death you find most pleasing. (banishment/implosion works well on the air ele's, you can stack DP on the reaver but if you're in a PUG you may not want to help them wear him down before it's time.

Once the reaver drops head over into the puzzle room and set up lots of BB's all over the place then climb back up the stairs. You don't have to kill everything just focus on keeping the annoying whisps of air away from those working on the puzzle. If you did a good job of keeping your charge then it's lots of fun to grab fly from the Reaver then hover over the crowd below raining down death from above in the form of cometfall/searing light.

Most importantly, if you get the madstone boots be sure to loot them. Then if you're ever in a group you don't want to heal claim madstone rage and link the boots. Not great for your rep among random puggers but amazing for the rest of us you tell the story to. 

kmack wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 4:44pm:

This is where I put you on my mental Ignore List.
Unless you're running elite with a less than desirable group, this will in-fucking-variably create more problems than it solves.  If there are newbies in the group then your strategy is an almost guaranteed wipe.

You know the rest of your raid specific advice that followed in later posts?  Yeah, I ignored all of it and didn't waste my time reading it.

I hate the patrol method and only do it when it's absolutely clear that the party is totally reluctant and uncomfortable with anything else. I agree with Cale that the patrol method causes more problems. But to each his own.

Conversely, with the patrol method, some fucking noob will start to get his ass kicked, shit his pants, run into the middle like an idiot, and drag a fucking freight train of renders in behind him.

Which method sounds more likely to wipe?

(and where the fuck did the Modify button go?)

Cale wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 8:39pm:


Until you need moar stones. Then the party wipes. Enjoy.

Cale wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 8:39pm:


Typically the groups I'm in have the bard head in with the Cleric or FVS assigned to the tank. My post did assume a balanced group. I was focusing on the two roles typically assigned to the healer.

Cale wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 8:39pm:


Especially if you need moar stones and haven't been on patrol keeping the hoard in check.

Anyway, started a discussion on this so we don't clog up Grace's thread just on HoX. I'll respond there if ya want to discuss further.

If you need more stones, everyone goes out together and grabs stones. It's way better than having everyone all over the map getting picked off by mobs. I'd rather deal with the trash on the outside with 7 more people than 1.

Cale wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 8:57pm:


Grace and Gawna, what difficulty did we fail that HoX on the other day?

Grace wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 8:58pm:


That isn't how patrol works. Cleric, bard and tank on inside. Everyone else moving as a group on the outside until small beholders spawn. At that point half run opposite direction, once the group meets up at which point they move together again. You kill more mobs throughout the quest but never have to take on a huge number all at once. We always designate people to run stones to the center, everyone else lives and dies on the outside.

Two more things. If you are in normal Shroud/ToD/VoD/whatever where everyone surrounds and beats on a boss join in melee. If you have mediocre HP you will live and if my cleric with a base strength of 8 and a base dreamspitter can hit Harry so can yours. The damage you will do is insignificant. What is important is that you never need to stop targeting the boss to throw a mass heal. Once you do this it becomes mush easier to keep DP up efficiently and to heal the party. If you are too squishy at the moment just go in and shield block instead of auto attack so you can still get sp from con-opp/torc. Remember, greensteel con-opp from a weapon and from an accessory stack with each other.

Nancy will back me up on this second one. If you have been awake for 35+ hours with absolutely no sleep don't join anything on your cleric. Or you will have a brain fart at a critical moment and some puppies will die. I have no idea how we actually beat that hound run. Nancy how did we manage to complete that run again? I can't really remember anything from that night. I think I had the star, or at least started the raid. Why the fuck did I think that would be a good idea. I must have had some oxygen deprivation the the brain or something. Oh wait...

Actually just don't do anything when you have been up that long. Unless you are Hordo and/or on a bard. If you are at least one of those two things you are golden because no one will care.

Grace wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 10:15pm:


Yes we talked ourselves into failing it. We failed because we refused to accept it would work. (or we failed when people had to go get more stones which is what actually happened everyone actually followed directions that run)

Grace wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 10:15pm:


Having one group of 5 and one group of 4 clearing the small number of things which spawned on the outside is hardly "everyone all over the map getting picked off by mobs."

Grace wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 10:48pm:

Yeah, Hound is a really good example of a raid you do differently with PUGs then you do good people.  And a situation where you don't rez people and revert to your 4 good people to complete the quest if the PUGs are screwing it up.  As long as one of your good people is a bard or a cster, and you made some progress, should work.  Symbol of death again. 

There's a sweet spot on the map for collapse -- far enough in not to pull aggro, but still in the corridor to the center and not fully in the center.  That's a good place for good melee to stand.

Similarly, there's a sweet spot on the TOD map.  Where you can heal both tanks if need be.