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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Jul 24^th, 2012 at 10:26pm	Print Post
	[Farnsworth]Good news, everyone![/Farnsworth] http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?&postid=4605593#post4605593 Theender: Quote: What I don't understand is why handwraps also have an AML. Surely their base weapon damage does not change to merit an AML, or am I missing something? Feather of Sun: Quote: It actually does. If you see an Absolute Minimum Level 20 on a handwrap, it means it is adding an extra 1d6 to your unarmed damage.

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qwerty1234 Ex Member	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #1 - Jul 24^th, 2012 at 11:19pm	Print Post
	I'll believe it when I see it.


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Zhalian Dragon Raider Offline Drama is best served fresh. Posts: 280 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2012 Gender:	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #2 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 2:32am	Print Post
	Shouldn't it be +1d20 (or whatever your monk happens to be hitting for) instead of a static number, cause really 1d6 is pathetic.
	« Last Edit: Jul 25^th, 2012 at 2:32am by Zhalian »
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Azog Ex Member	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #3 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 2:56am	Print Post
	Zhalian wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 2:32am: Shouldn't it be +1d20 (or whatever your monk happens to be hitting for) instead of a static number, cause really 1d6 is pathetic. It you hit 3.000.000 times that would be around 10.500.000 hitpoints damage. It is quite a lot.


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Zhalian Dragon Raider Offline Drama is best served fresh. Posts: 280 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2012 Gender:	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #4 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 3:44am	Print Post
	My point was more the increased damage dice weapons are multipliers of base weapon damage for everything else, since monks increase their base damage dice as they level it should be more than what a level 1 monk gets which is 1d6.

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kickass Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 137 Joined: Oct 12^th, 2011	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #5 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 3:47am	Print Post
	Zhalian wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 3:44am: My point was more the increased damage dice weapons are multipliers of base weapon damage for everything else, since monks increase their base damage dice as they level it should be more than what a level 1 monk gets which is 1d6. you could splash 1 level of monk and get 20th level monk dps.


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Zhalian Dragon Raider Offline Drama is best served fresh. Posts: 280 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2012 Gender:	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #6 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 3:59am	Print Post
	Sigh apparently not making myself clear, it should be +1d(whatever your unarmed damage is) so if you are level one its 1-6 if however you are a level 20 monk then it should add MORE damage than a ML1 weapon of bleed. Now yes Turbine will never code that correctly and it will either add +100 damage or 0 and thats why they did the simple 1d6, that doesn't make it a good choice.
	« Last Edit: Jul 25^th, 2012 at 4:01am by Zhalian »
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Glenalth Puppy Farmer Offline Not banned, just bored Posts: 1602 Location: Albuquerque Joined: Sep 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #7 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 4:15am	Print Post
	Zhalian wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 3:59am: Sigh apparently not making myself clear, it should be +1d(whatever your unarmed damage is) so if you are level one its 1-6 if however you are a level 20 monk then it should add MORE damage than a ML1 weapon of bleed.� Now yes Turbine will never code that correctly and it will either add +100 damage or 0 and thats why they did the simple 1d6, that doesn't make it a good choice. They just spent significant resources to get rid of that.


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Limpgimp Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 278 Joined: Jul 18^th, 2012	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #8 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 4:29am	Print Post
	Zhalian wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 3:59am: Sigh apparently not making myself clear, it should be +1d(whatever your unarmed damage is) so if you are level one its 1-6 if however you are a level 20 monk then it should add MORE damage than a ML1 weapon of bleed.� Now yes Turbine will never code that correctly and it will either add +100 damage or 0 and thats why they did the simple 1d6, that doesn't make it a good choice. monk base damage is 1d6 now, with added 0.5W each 3 levels or so (3.5W[1d6} at 20) so the 1d6 = 1W, exactly as for other AML 20 weapons


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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #9 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 5:31am	Print Post
	Limpgimp wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 4:29am: monk base damage is 1d6 now, with added 0.5W each 3 levels or so (3.5W[1d6} at 20) so the 1d6 = 1W, exactly as for other AML 20 weapons ^^this, if it works like it should you get 3,5 W6 extra damage from MinLevel20 warps. Next time I can log on will be friday, if you want to do some testing hit something with plain minLevel1 warps and compare to plain (deconstructed) minLevel20 warps.
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livefreeordie Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2011	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #10 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 9:19am	Print Post
	Quote: It you hit 3.000.000 times that would be around 10.500.000 hitpoints damage. It is quite a lot. Fantastic logic. It should really just be +1 dmg then, cause if you hit something 20,000,000 times then that would be 20,000,000 or for those of you keeping track, more then 9,000.


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Zhalian Dragon Raider Offline Drama is best served fresh. Posts: 280 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2012 Gender:	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #11 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 6:59pm	Print Post
	Ah interesting, I havn't been on my monk for a while and missed that change.� So ok, its still not great but makes more sense now, thanks.
	« Last Edit: Jul 25^th, 2012 at 9:22pm by Zhalian »
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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #12 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 10:37pm	Print Post
	It actually works out to a very small increase in DPS over the die steps and makes it easier to predict damage.� Once it actually shows properly and PL feat/jidz boost are fixed I think it can be a good system.�
	« Last Edit: Jul 25^th, 2012 at 10:38pm by Maxwell Edison »
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Slug Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1061 Joined: Feb 19^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #13 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 10:49pm	Print Post
	Just don't expect the +1d6 on named wraps: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=385785


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aDifferentHandle Abbot Raider Offline omg, that's the funky shit Posts: 996 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #14 - Jul 26^th, 2012 at 3:28am	Print Post
	Guildie of mine tested, and confirmed, that absolute ML:20 handwraps do increase the maximum damage by 6.

	That's not opinion, that's science. And science is one cold hearted bitch with a 14 inch strap on.
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kavinsky Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 213 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2012	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #15 - Jul 26^th, 2012 at 10:23am	Print Post
	So . . . . Something's actually working, shocking.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #16 - Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:32pm	Print Post
	Happy to discover this...but how the hell does this not make it into the release notes?


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Name_Is_Not_Allowed Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 44 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: ML 20+ Handwraps do +1d6 damage Reply #17 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 11:09am	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 5^th, 2012 at 10:32pm: Happy to discover this...but how the hell does this not make it into the release notes? For six years "DNT TBD" has demonstrated that search and replace is an insurmountable challenge. I can only assume generating release notes requires reading, copying, pasting, and editing developer check-in notes. An individual with all these advanced text editing skills is probably hard to find. Give them a break, text is hard.


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