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Xenostrata Ex Member	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #300 - Sep 16^th, 2012 at 8:11pm	Print Post
	Wait, so what is GW2 endgame? Just pvp/wvw/events?


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Cale Abbot Raider Offline Meh.... Drama Posts: 954 Joined: May 9^th, 2010	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #301 - Sep 16^th, 2012 at 8:25pm	Print Post
	Quote: Wait, so what is GW2 endgame? Just pvp/wvw/events? PvP WvW Events in Orr [which are massive, varied, and constant] Events in the rest of the world [because even when down-leveled, world Events drop appropriately leveled loot for your true level] Dungeons [5 man raids, difficulty varies for story mode, people looking for a challenge can play explorable mode, these are built to be repeated multiple times on explorable mode if you want the coolest looking gear, there are currently eight of them] Personally, I've never been a fan of PvP, but I have actually had a pretty good time running 8v8 pick-up sPvP.� I haven't done any 5v5 tournament PvP. And I really love WvW.� It's way more fun than I expected it to be. Then with explorable mode dungeons, World Events, Orr, and going back and running zones that you didn't get to while leveling, there's plenty to do at cap and I don't know what people are talking about. Once I've gotten my fill of exploring the world and leveling a million alts, I expect I'll be spending the vast majority of my time in WvW. It's always exciting, evolving, and varied. Much better than grinding Epics or Raids over and fucking over again as far as I'm concerned.
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Ragedancer Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 158 Location: In Game... Joined: Nov 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #302 - Sep 17^th, 2012 at 10:08am	Print Post
	i find it funny people complaining about gw endgame. DDO has nothing end game, raids are so easy a wet paper towel can tank EH any raid. theres no incentive for EE once you finish favor...theres really nothing to do. even alts are boring since the main reason for alts before was so you have something to run once your timered for daily epics and raids, scroll farming. maxing all destinys, getting all the xpac twink gear, cormyrian redscale was less than fun, but kept me busy awhile. id rather kick myself in the face than max ed's on alts. all aside gw has pvp, a never ending changing challenge. i used to play gw pvp for a looong time after the pve got stale. the good thing about gw pvp is theres no pay to win, they do a great job of balancing, and its dynamic. anyway if you want the client use a torrent, its often faster than the auto download stuff, and you can read the strat guide while you wait. http://thepiratebay.se/search/guild%20wars%202/0/99/0 ill be downloading next time i go into town and don't have a limited bandwidth, cus the game is massive.

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DrDetroit Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 5 Joined: Sep 9^th, 2012	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #303 - Sep 17^th, 2012 at 10:59am	Print Post
	After reading this thread and talking to a GW2 player, I think I have an idea on the entire "only 10 buttons in GW2." GW2 has 5 attack buttons.� One is the basic attack, the other four are� special attacts and are like Feats, Trip, Sunder, Stunning Blow etc. In GW2, the Feats are tied to the Weapon, not the build.� It would be like having to use a Maul in DDO to use Stunning Blow, then swap to a Greatsword to use Trip. Also, the 5 attacks in GW2 are not 5 attacks, but more.� If you do them in a specific order, you get a bonus or special attack.� �It would be like if in DDO if you did a Sunder, Trip, then Stunning Blow that would activate Power Attack for a few seconds. GW2 is about using the attacks in order to get a combo. DDO is about activating abilities to get the most out of a build. For casters it would be like the order you cast spells in activating Meta Magic Feats. The two systems are very different so a comparison of spell number and hotbars/buttons is not a straight forward x vs y.


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Gawna Ex Member	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #304 - Sep 17^th, 2012 at 11:27am	Print Post
	Smrti wrote on Sep 15^th, 2012 at 8:58pm: I like my dual pistol thief...I've taken out quite a few event mobs solo with it with my rotation I have a dual pistol thief that I like a lot. My elite skill that I have loaded right now summons 2 thieves to fight for me and it's amazeballs. I've sort of put her on the back burner for now, though, because my ranger is so fucking fun. Also: Breaken: "I had to get armor with pants because with a skirt on you could see my junk while I was swimming. I knew that you wouldn't be able to pay attention then." Me: "I would just drown." Breaken: "It was huge! It would knock out your Asura." Me: "I'd try to charm it on my ranger."


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livefreeordie Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2011	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #305 - Sep 17^th, 2012 at 11:52am	Print Post
	DrDetroit wrote on Sep 17^th, 2012 at 10:59am: Also, the 5 attacks in GW2 are not 5 attacks, but more.� If you do them in a specific order, you get a bonus or special attack.� �It would be like if in DDO if you did a Sunder, Trip, then Stunning Blow that would activate Power Attack for a few seconds. Pretty accurate post on the whole.� You are leaving out the utility skills, which are 5 more interchangeable slots that have about 30 underlying skills to select from. Typically not direct attacks, but for my Mesmer I can select from thinks like blink, making portals, a fountain that shoots poison, timewarp (like Haste only shorter and better) and summon a clone that takes part of my dmg. The one thing that is off is that order is not really giving you a bonus, from what I can tell playing a Mesmer and Guardian.� I think you are talking more about combo fields.� That is the interaction between two different characters. To put it in DDO terms.� A sorcerer throws down a firewall, then a ranger shoots and arrow through it at the Mob, the arrow now has fire dmg added to it, and can make a buring DoT. Alot of the skills do create boons or conditions, so timing the right boon (ie retilation) can be important, but hitting 3-2-1 does not give a bonus that 2-3-1 would not.
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #306 - Sep 17^th, 2012 at 11:56am	Print Post
	Quote: Breaken: "I had to get armor with pants because with a skirt on you could see my junk while I was swimming. I knew that you wouldn't be able to pay attention then." Me: "I would just drown." Breaken: "It was huge! It would knock out your Asura." Me: "I'd try to charm it on my ranger." In vent- Breaken:BRB Me:It is cute when he tries to spell. Gawna:Did he mean AFK? Me:I think he was trying to spell Breaken.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Gawna Ex Member	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #307 - Sep 17^th, 2012 at 12:01pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Sep 17^th, 2012 at 11:56am: In vent- Breaken:BRB Me:It is cute when he tries to spell. Gawna:Did he mean AFK? Me:I think he was trying to spell Breaken. Breaken said that we are cooler than a sack of tits.


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Gawna Ex Member	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #308 - Sep 17^th, 2012 at 12:03pm	Print Post
	stainer: Gawna, I crafted you some stuff and mailed it to you. me: Is it a push up bra? stainer: My crafting level is nowhere near high enough for that. Breaken: You should have said, "I'm a leatherworker, not a magician!"


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Breaken Horoluth Raider Offline Go^Yourself Posts: 2013 Location: TEXAS Joined: Jul 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #309 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 1:31am	Print Post
	Quote: stainer: Gawna, I crafted you some stuff and mailed it to you. me: Is it a push up bra? stainer: My crafting level is nowhere near high enough for that. Breaken: You should have said, "I'm a leatherworker, not a magician!" you forgot the part where you snorted.

	Quote: Breaken's just a weird asshole, divorcced and pathetically marvelling at talk of sex. That guy is fucked IMHO. People I really don't like here list is small. Not that you or anyone should care, but for me it is Calvet, because he's stupid in a bitchy drama way, and Breaken, but he is a liar and a blunt, inelegant angry guy
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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #310 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 8:15am	Print Post
	Cale wrote on Sep 16^th, 2012 at 3:26pm: Wrong again.� Backstab is the highest DPS for a d/d Thief.� Not only is it the highest DPS per initiative [because it costs zero Ini], but it's the highest DPS attack in their arsenal period. You are wrong, period.� There is no way backstab is better DPS in PvE because backstab is single target and DB is AoE.� You don't run out of intiative unless you are bad.� Thief has so many initiative adds, that you are rarely found wanting.� Also, yeah backstab is more damage per initiative, but only because anything divided by zero is infinity.� Derp.� Way to miss the point completely and make a totally asinine and unrelated comment.� Quote: Thieves that spam DP are what the PvPers call Baddies. Obviously, I wasn't talking about PvP.� Only an idiot fanboy would think otherwise.� Quote: Fire attunement, five skills. Water attunement, five skills. Air attunement, five skills. Earth attunement, five skills. Heal. Three utilities. One elite. That's over 9000 available skills, assuming none of the three Utilities were Conjures. It's funny that you keep ele as your go to example. "Look at how many skills I have, so much customization!"� When in actuality, ele is the WORST example of lack of customization in GW2.� It's not about the number of skills you have, it's the fact that they are all the same all the time in all the same places.� You have no ability switch out a skill you don't like for something else.� And there are tons of ele skills which are not good.� Please don't give me a spiel on how all the skills have use in certain situations or I'm not using the skills properly or at the right time, because that's not the point nor is it true.� Some ele skills are mathematically bad.� Attunement switching nearly doubles the number of keys I need to press for no real reason.� (nd no, boons on attunement switching is not a real reason. There was a reason no one slotted flare in GW1, and for some reason A.net thought it was a good idea to force you to take 8 flares (2 weapon x 4 attunements).� Quote: And I never said it had the same amount of customization as DDO.� I said it had a HELL of a lot more customization than you're giving it credit for. Less customization than GW1.� I personally don't consider that enough.�
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livefreeordie Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2011	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #311 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:40am	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 8:15am: but only because anything divided by zero is infinity.� Derp.� Derp. division by zero is undefined not infinity for real numbers.


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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #312 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:41am	Print Post
	livefreeordie wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:40am: Derp.� division by zero is undefined not infinity for real numbers.� Math is hard.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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livefreeordie Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2011	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #313 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:57am	Print Post
	GW2 Beta for Macs


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Bahgoon Stormreaver Piker Offline Get off my lawn! Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2011	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #314 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:09am	Print Post
	livefreeordie wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:40am: Derp.� division by zero is undefined not infinity for real numbers.� But the limit of 1/x as x approaches 0 is infinity. But that is positive infinity if you approach from the positive side and negative infinity if you approach from the negative side with a discontinuity at 0 if you try to graph it. All of which is probably irrelevant, but I wanted to show off my fancy Jethro cyphering skills for y'all. Anyone have any l'H�pital's they want me to be erudite about?

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livefreeordie Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2011	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #315 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:12am	Print Post
	Bahgoon wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:09am: But the limit of 1/x as x approaches 0 is infinity. Interesting, I must have misread his quote to say "but only because anything divided by X as X approaches zero has a limit of infinity. Derp."


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Bahgoon Stormreaver Piker Offline Get off my lawn! Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2011	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #316 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:17am	Print Post
	livefreeordie wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:12am: Interesting, I must have misread his quote to say "but only because anything divided by X as X approaches zero has a limit of infinity.� Derp." Well, I'm just trolling with maths, so I have no idea what the actual argument is. However, in computer applications you may start having problems using floating point operations if your divisors start getting really small. Which again, I have no clue if that applies here.

	The various modes of worship which prevailed in the Roman world were all considered by the people as equally true; by the philosopher as equally false; and by the magistrate as equally useful. - Edward Gibbon
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livefreeordie Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2011	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #317 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:26am	Print Post
	Bahgoon wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:17am: Well, I'm just trolling with maths, so I have no idea what the actual argument is. Relevant arguments are overrated and have no place on these boards!


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Bahgoon Stormreaver Piker Offline Get off my lawn! Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2011	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #318 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:38am	Print Post
	livefreeordie wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:26am: Relevant arguments are overrated and have no place on these boards! Too right, squire! The troll's the thing Wherein I'll catch the conscience of the King

	The various modes of worship which prevailed in the Roman world were all considered by the people as equally true; by the philosopher as equally false; and by the magistrate as equally useful. - Edward Gibbon
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Gawna Ex Member	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #319 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 11:13am	Print Post
	Math never solves problems, you guys.


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Grace Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #320 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 11:16am	Print Post
	Quote: Math never solves problems, you guys. A majority of people agree with you. Like, 2/5, at least.

	JDollar wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 5:25pm: she's Kmack's property Quote: You're obviously important to the community.� And not just because your skin is so supple and soft and smells like honeysuckle and friendship. JDollar wrote on Jul 10^th, 2013 at 2:15am: To put in DnD terms Grace is a CR 60 EE Ball Busting Bitch
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Gawna Ex Member	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #321 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 11:28am	Print Post
	Gawnapewpew got her Tier 1 sylvari cultural armor last night! She looks like a leafy Britney Spears! Haaaaaaaay!


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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #322 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 11:32am	Print Post


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Gawna Ex Member	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #323 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 11:33am	Print Post
	Exactly, y'all.


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Grace Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Why GW2 is better than DDO Reply #324 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 11:34am	Print Post
	Step out of a car and let us be the judge of that.

	JDollar wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 5:25pm: she's Kmack's property Quote: You're obviously important to the community.� And not just because your skin is so supple and soft and smells like honeysuckle and friendship. JDollar wrote on Jul 10^th, 2013 at 2:15am: To put in DnD terms Grace is a CR 60 EE Ball Busting Bitch
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