green00_00 wrote on Sep 24
th, 2012 at 10:40pm:
Why do we let people pick their gender? Maybe I should walk around, pulling back on the corners of my eyes with my fingers and tell people im asian.
Asian isn't a gender last I checked, although the similarity between Asian women and Asian guys is close enough that maybe they ARE.
green00_00 wrote on Sep 24
th, 2012 at 11:04pm:
You mean he. He is biologically male.
If you want to challenge gender roles that's cool, but let's not pretend we can arbitrarily redefine biology just because it suits us.
Eh. If you met her, and she requested that you refer to her using female pronouns, would you make such a fuss over it? Think of it as meeting someone that prefers to be called Mr. Whatever instead of by their first name, or un-appended last name, or a nickname--it's their personal preference. The difference here, is that by NOT respecting that preference, you're just being a total douchebag.
cdr wrote on Sep 24
th, 2012 at 11:26pm:
I mean, obviously you don't notice it. But you may want to think about why you go to appearance when you want to get at a woman and not when you want to hate on a guy. I only say this at all because you're one of the few Vaulters who might actually think about it.
Does it count if women do that shit to other women, too? It's not (necessarily) a chauvinistic thing if everyone does it. It's more about our culture, and the expectations we have of women. It's shitty, yes, but is hardly limited to guys being assholes.
After reading an article about this very subject a few years ago in reference to the media's treatment of Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi, I've taken note of these differences more and more--reviews of individuals differ greatly depending on their gender. For men, if any mention of their appearance is mentioned at all, it will typically be short (one sentence) and generally speaks to looking official, neat, classy, disheveled, or relaxed, whereas for women it tends to be longer (2 sentences to a paragraph, even in articles/visual media concerned with other things, like the person's policies, politics or a speech they made), and addresses not only the same general things men get rated on, but also often on their hair, jewelry, make-up, youth or age (and how they look compared to their actual age), shoes, other accessories, and how their whole outfit goes together.
It's rather obnoxious,when reading the news section of the paper, trying to get some info on recent politics, to get surprised by a snippet from the entertainment and gossip section in the middle of a political article whenever a women gets discussed. And this is largely true in any arena.
That said, I'd much rather watch Celestra speak than fucking Fernando.
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