JDollar wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 7:19am:

He seems to have a soft spot for random things. There are places where this is creating fun, and there are places where it's creating grind.

It's interesting to see that the doors swing both ways.

Can anyone confirm the shroud blades?  I didn't witness them first hand, so I'd like some corroboration on that one.

Glenalth wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 2:56pm:


I am upset that Clerics still lack a complete enhancement line! Who do I complain to about that?

Flav wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 4:53pm:


Clerics don't get any love!

cdr wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 11:06am:


lexcept for rogues, twf's, fvs, bards, druids, monks, s/b, Arcanes and Arti's but other than that (THF Barbs fighters and Paladins) it hasnt been as good. it says more about the brokenness of the ESoS than the new gear and weapons.

Inkblack wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 11:24am:


Shroud blades confirmed, damage in the range of 30's. No screenshot, so take is as you will.
The amount of 'wtf!' produced - priceless .

Munkenmo wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 1:22am:


remember when rangers were awesome? Development is cyclical. Monks have gotten a shit ton of love since they got boned by GS handwraps, and hand wraps in general still such, hardly the item guys fault its the code thats the issue. Livewood core is totally shit for w/f monks right? same with EE Ivy wraps, not mention how shitty the Amautator wraps from the challenge can be. IDK but my guildies are loving their monks on EE.

JDollar wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 2:22am:


Yes I am saying it's shit.

no matter how you spin it, the spider-spun caparison is > then livewood core for a monk.

Answer me this, when you're wearing your livewood core tell me where you're getting your +1 ki and your reinforced fists? 

+1 insightful wisdom and con (cause that's all i'd gain) and some fortification, isn't really good enough to justify being permanently slotted, w/f has racial con and fortification boosts anyway.

A w/f wearing dragontouched or any old epic docent already had enough fort to never get critted.

I said that w/f have been essentially ignored, and that w/f monks (not all monks) are worse than ever. I even fucking specifically stated compared to everyone else.

Thanks for missing the point, and reminding me how good fleshy monks have it.

Inkblack wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 11:24am:


Got shroud blades on heroic VoN6 when a crazy scotsman drank a pot while we were all niftly huddled at home base after killing the pillars.

They killed the only divine in the raid and 2 more folks. Priceless.

mystafyi wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 6:56pm:


Yes that's the whole point... Instead of having a reason to bring my cleric into that retarded waste of time with a She-Coyle that is supposed to be a raid ( namely : CiTW ), I just farm VONs and a few oldies at epic levels with gimps ( that way I can level them) and if they loot something that can replace one of the named item my cleric has in the shared bank the loot goes.

Even the fucking items from the Challenges and the Commendations are leh at best, of when of relative use they are in a slot where there's something much more important.

JDollar wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 2:29am:


Personally I don't have the will nor the time to change completely how my character is equipped.
I'm looking for better item in the same slot or with minimum shuffling. As things are, except random loot, there is no named better than those I have in the slots.
The only way would be to dump everything and restart naked, and I don't have the will nor the time to do it.

The sad thing is that up until MoTU it was possible to insert new named items into a character with a minimum hassle, now, it's impossible.

JDollar wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 5:24am:


Guildies don't blame me when I make one of these!!!!!!

Flav wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 5:47am:

lol so let me get this straight you are bitching about the loot but dont care to get the new stuff because you cant be bothered to bank your old out of date gear? Thats the whole point of getting new gear.
I took a break just before MotU launched, I had topend gear. When I came back my gear was suffient to level to cap. Then I started farming for new stuff ro accomodate the new better gear, changed the direction of my builds a little to accomodate the spell power changes and changes to AC and found myself running Cannith challenges, house P, D and K epics again for different gear in addition i found there were items in the Spiner of shadows I now wanted as well as many things from from  MotU and the Eveningstar challenges not to mention the 2 or 3 pieces of random gear and weapons I use on my 4 main toons... but you are right we should bitch about the way it used to be... I miss when my level 10 capped halfling Paladin with evasion in full plate was the bestest toon running tempest spine 

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