got my current and last reincarnation toon to 8 and used my stone just a hair away from 17 now... It was glorious... i just wish i could buy the stones alone without that other shit

Bigjunk wrote on Dec 24^th, 2012 at 12:20pm:


these are the forums. I dont really particpate on the other forums anymore beyond builds and trades and maybe the odd argo server thread

OldCoaly wrote on Dec 24^th, 2012 at 10:22pm:


whatever, we agree to disagree. The game took a noticable down turn when turbine started getting us to do their QA.

How many halfling bane items did u craft? I think it was an actual joke that they did that recipe you fight a handful of halflingss in the entire game in 1 quest? and they are such a low level that crafting a greaterbane is hardly worth making on. Pick a better example. Crafting and PVP are not valid arguements for anything concerning DDO. Most game companies hire more people for QA they dont trick the players into doing it.  You keep wanting to apply bandaids to leasions with hopes to cure cancer

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Where did you get that idea? I said LIKE mournelands, make it invite only, but only do it through live events on the live servers, how do you get guilds on mournelands (of which there are none) to all win an invite from alive event?

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You dont think mournelanders dont leak info? LOL shows what you know.

In case 1 i agree, shouldnt have lammania. The game was better before it and there was never the bitching and moaning from people like you. How do other companies manage to get acceptable product out?

In case 2 well get some guildies to win some live event invites.. to the victors go the spoils.

In case 3 2nd hand info is not the same as people running the actual quests themselves

JDollar wrote on Dec 24^th, 2012 at 11:26pm:


I think the trend began when they stopped the Weekly Developer Activities threads.

There's not much objective data to work with, but it seems that when the WDA ended the practice of "knowingly deploying broken content and not acknowledging it" became standard procedure.

Before Lamma there was Risia, which was also a "Preview Server". There is a well documented history of bugs being discovered by people on Risia very early and still being pushed to Live.

JDollar wrote on Dec 24^th, 2012 at 11:26pm:

My intention was to illustrate the disconnect between the people who develop content and the players by using a particularly notorious example, and to demonstrate that Lamma is a net benefit to the players because it gives us a chance to see some of what's coming.

The point wasn't "Halfling Bane". 

The point was "Turbine stated intent to deploy to live crafting recipes that required the consumption of rare, named, raid-only loot".  The public learned of this because it was deployed to Lamma before it went live.

Turbine made it very clear that their intent was to go ahead and push this to live. Had Lamma been a "Secret Ninja Private Club for Cool Kids Only" it would have happened.


JDollar wrote on Dec 24^th, 2012 at 11:26pm:


I'm not sure why you think I want to apply a bandaid, or how it is damaging to leave Lamma as a publicly accessible opportunity to see some of the developers' intentions.

I also do not understand how closing Lamma to the public will prevent any guilds from guzzling however many mana potions are necessary to achieve a world first completion, nor do I understand how anyone's world first completion prevents you from finding people to run new content without spoiler information.


I think the cancer at DDO is apathy.  For some reason it has become acceptable to knowingly release to the public unfinished content, broken features, make changes that break existing mechanisms, generally not check their work, and leave high visibility shit that should be easy to fix broken for months.

Why should anyone there care about getting anything right the first time when "good enough to not get fired" is the benchmark?

It's not that they CANNOT get it right, they do not CARE to get it right and CHOOSE to do other things because it is acceptable to leave it wrong. 

For example, it required Felony Hate Speech for them to correct the LFM problem. How long did it take for them to develop and implement the correction?

Eladiun wrote on Dec 20^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:


If you're with a group that is willing to grind, then this is very true.

It is absolutely false for 99% of DDO, but that's because they're not actually willing to grind at all.  They run one quest 6 times and then get bored and wander away.

popejubal wrote on Dec 27^th, 2012 at 5:08pm:


Then they are for sure playing the WRONG game.

JDollar wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 10:17am:

You are correct, of course, that DDO is not unique in that endgame is essentially a grind fest. They are in the wrong TYPE of game then. Even If you play things six times before you get bored and never run it again it wouldn't take long to exhaust ANY MMO except maybe WOW, that would take longer.

There is no question that the grind in DDO is better than it used to be, in that it isn't nearly as boring because there are so many types of grind. Good thing.

The biggest problem I see right now is the semi random effects on named loot, multiplying the grind of getting what you want. If you could craft them, or trade two of them for what you want that would be great.

popejubal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 12:44pm:


At least on Sarlona, Shadow Crypt is the one quest everyone will grind into the ground.

The problem is 90% of them learned it from someone who learned it from someone who learned it from someone, and will do shit like insisting on having a mouth-breathing arcane take 20 minutes to solo it while the rest of the group pikes at the start, instead of duo pathing it in 5 minutes.

See also me tanking shadows the very first time I did TOD and doing a better job of it than people with 100 completions kiting, because trying new things is too hard.

popejubal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 12:44pm:

BRT, going to spend my enhancement point.

popejubal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 12:44pm:


Dude, it's simply not needed.  We ran Shadowcrypt like 5 times, got bored and went to do something else because XP basically grows on trees at this level.


Running the same quest for 10 times is just boring and you don't need to do it.

cdr wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:


There's so much XP at that level it's not needed.

Litany x10?   I'll probably do it.  RWTD?   Same thing.  But level 11?  Even with just running the VONs and the Fens once (to save for level 20+) you still fly by this just with bravery.