Eladiun wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 12:23pm:


When DDO cannot lead, they will follow

I couldn't care less about the stones. If there are people that want to just cap toons and not play and are willing to drop that much cash to do it, fine. It pays for a game that I play, and their progress doesn't affect me in the least. If there are people that want to really play the game and work through every level, cool. Some people don't like mana pots, some people don't like twink gear, whatever. People play how they want, and as long as it doesn't affect my gaming and isn't stuff that is huge and I can't get in other ways, fine by me.

Eladiun wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 3:13pm:


Are you under the mistaken impression that everyone plays an MMO for a sense of "accomplishment"?  To me, an accomplishment is getting married, raising a child, building a company, a building, a boat, writing a novel, etc.  Winning at scrabble or yahtzee or monopoly or risk or capping a toon in DDO or completing Baldur's Gate is not an accomplishment.  Just like winning a pickup basketball game in your driveway is not an accomplishment.  Winning an NBA title would be.  Building an MMO that thousands of people play would be an accomplishment.  Playing the MMO?  Not so much. 

Now, playing scrabble, yahtzee, monopoly, risk, basketball, DDO or Baldur's Gate all bring me joy.  That's the point of them.  Joy. Fun.  Not accomplishment.  If you play DDO for joy and your joy comes from running end game raids and Epic Elite content, not TRing for 4.3 mill XP, then what is the problem with using a stone to speed up a TR so that you can get a past life done quickly and back to doing what you enjoy in the game? 

I think you are applying your reasons for playing to others.  But that's not how it works.  Remember your Obi-Wan.  "The many truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view."

I like to scream at Aqua in Vent when I complete a jumping puzzle.

I have no inside voice.

lol SMOAKed

Eladiun wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 2:48pm:



lol You have lost it man. SO MUCH RAGE. Leveling toons lost its charm for me when the cap hit 20. I have 3 charqacters that havent moved from level 17 since then. I find it tedious, I would rather get the exp from 16-20 or even 18-20. When ever i TR a toon, happens very rarely I have 2 36 point builds, and 2 34 point builds and stil play a plain old 32 pointer (one day having all the favor is going to matter) and have another level 20 I dont play on the my current acct, another couple level 20's kicking around out there on other accts. If I am forced to TR again I will most likely quit, I hate leveling HATE IT, it puts me to sleep. I used to have a wizard now that you need 3 past lives wizard, 3 past lives fvs, minimum to be able to run EE's without major problems nevermind 3 past lives Sorc, and maybe a few barb past lives to round it out I will NEVER play a wizard or Sorc at endgame again. I dont need a sense of accomplishment from a game, if you dont mention the plus 5 tome you pulled to you best friend who doesnt game its not really a significant life accomplishment...

friend 1 "Hey man I just got engaged to my girl,the wedding is in June"

friend 2 "Thats nothin man I just beat Velah on EE and finally pulled my ESoS shard and got loot slid a shard and seal for my red armor!!!!!!!"


just dont see it playing out that way. More like this:

friend 1 "Man I just beat Velah on EE and finally pulled my ESoS shard and got loot slid a shard and seal for my red armor!!!!!!!"

friend2 "Grats man I just watched the Hawks win tonight in OT.. GOOOOO HAWWWWKS"

this scenario has accomplishments about equal 

AtomicMew wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 8:19pm:


incorrect. tring 2 oe 3 times is generally required for end game, some classes need 6 past lives to be good for endgame content

JDollar wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 8:36pm:

It is if your parties want to use the sledgehammer-to-the-face hold-beatdown approach to every single encounter. You're confusing good with optimal, or maybe good with quest-trivializing. I somehow managed to complete all of eveningstar and high road on my wizard without 6 PLs, I must be the only one then.

I bet you're also the kind of guy who used to require 42 enchantment DC for wizards on echrono because you can't cc otherwise in there.

AtomicMew wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 9:18pm:


there is a balance between time spent playing content you dont enjoy and getting the boost in power you want. 6 past lives may have been hyperbole but first life wizards and sorcs are useless at endgame

BTW, Eladiun, are you a subscriber in SWTOR?  Isn't that pay to win?  you get faster xp rates than F2P/Preferred players.

Just do what I did. Start playing Guild Wars 2, and then realize you are having the most fun you've had playing a game in a long time.

JDollar wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 10:08pm:

I have a hard time figuring out where you're coming from.  First life wiz/sorcs useless at end game?  Well geared arcanes in the right destiny will crap all over the large majority of melee toons in EE.  You don't need maximum spell pen to web drow mobs, finger trash casters and output tons of AoE DPS with shiradi or draconic.