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Feb 9th, 2013 at 2:05pm
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Anyone try one of these builds yet?  Leveling sounds dull, but some of the numbers posted in the videos are pretty sick...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=404822
  

Feynman wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:57pm:
One thing for everyone who is a "skeptic" on this issue: Insurance companies are basing their underwriting on the assumption that it is real. They are refusing to write policies on homes that are likely to be in danger from rising seas 20 years from now, even though the resale rate of the homes is so high that they could keep writing policies for another 10 years and still not have to pay out on 1 policy in 5, but that would be irresponsible. Unethical, as well, but that's never stopped anyone before.


IMARANGER wrote on Jan 11th, 2014 at 6:12pm:
It is fairly natural to assume that the fair price for the pot is the fair value of the resources I needed to make the pot plus the fair value of my labor.

IMARANGER wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 4:56pm:
You were right this time, OnePercenter. 


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Reply #1 - Feb 9th, 2013 at 2:09pm
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I'm leveling one. I TR'd my Melee Warchanter for it. Leveling the Ranger variant. Get Fernian Wraps for the early levels til you can use decent Q Staves or SoS/GS.
  

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Did you run a build in the planner?  I have 61 levels left for completionist and may wait in case it bogs down.  Looks like someone is soliciting feedback to compare it to the Tukaw. I'm thinking the damage of the Tukaw won't even compare...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=407413
  

Feynman wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:57pm:
One thing for everyone who is a "skeptic" on this issue: Insurance companies are basing their underwriting on the assumption that it is real. They are refusing to write policies on homes that are likely to be in danger from rising seas 20 years from now, even though the resale rate of the homes is so high that they could keep writing policies for another 10 years and still not have to pay out on 1 policy in 5, but that would be irresponsible. Unethical, as well, but that's never stopped anyone before.


IMARANGER wrote on Jan 11th, 2014 at 6:12pm:
It is fairly natural to assume that the fair price for the pot is the fair value of the resources I needed to make the pot plus the fair value of my labor.

IMARANGER wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 4:56pm:
You were right this time, OnePercenter. 


iliveyourdream13 wrote on May 14th, 2014 at 2:02pm:
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OnePercenter wrote on Feb 10th, 2013 at 10:58am:
Did you run a build in the planner?  I have 61 levels left for completionist and may wait in case it bogs down.  Looks like someone is soliciting feedback to compare it to the Tukaw. I'm thinking the damage of the Tukaw won't even compare...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=407413

Tukaw was and remains a terribad build.  Juggernaut is what Tukaw always wanted to be but was too feat starved to get it done right.

The videos posted are nothing special. Running around in a never-ending Master's Blitz soloing CR30 challenges is old news.  It doesn't take anything special to do that. 

The magic of the Juggernaut is having decent melee, DC 60 Stunning Blow w/o fighter past lives, acceptable Evasion in EE, and amaze balls burst damage with Unbridled Fury+Manyshot.  Traps skills are just icing.  It's the best self-reliant melee build currently available.
  
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Tukaw is more of a PvP build anyways.

Jugs are just monstrous though.
  

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It's a pretty solid build.

It has one flaw though. It's a toaster. I can't fucking stand to look at the toaster's back when I'm playing.
  

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Smrti wrote on Feb 11th, 2013 at 7:36pm:
Tukaw is more of a PvP build anyways.


Confirming its usefulness in this game.
  

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OnePercenter wrote on Feb 10th, 2013 at 10:58am:
Did you run a build in the planner?  I have 61 levels left for completionist and may wait in case it bogs down.  Looks like someone is soliciting feedback to compare it to the Tukaw. I'm thinking the damage of the Tukaw won't even compare...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=407413


Yeah, that'll get you educated opinions.
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Reply #8 - Feb 13th, 2013 at 10:42pm
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I'm leveling the Paladin version. It's actually been really fun, an with the right scrolls, I really haven't had a problem soloing or leveling anything. I farmed out the Lvl 16 version of the Ring of the Master Artificer and then put on the masterful craftsmanship shard, and that gave me a good boost to my repair spells for self healing.

It's a lot like leveling a barb with self heal and self buffs.
  
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Gunga wrote on Feb 12th, 2013 at 8:28am:
Confirming its usefulness in this game.


Confirming the Jugs as better so far than my experience with the Tukaw.
  

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What's the reason for the Pally PL?
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Disavowed wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 5:55pm:
What's the reason for the Pally PL?


+3 attack/damage?

I'm doing it without.
  

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And the 9 minutes of full BAB? Not sure what the BAB is for an arti, and I'm far too lazy to look it up on the wiki. Not even sure to-hit is an issue for anyone anymore.
  
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rest wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 7:53pm:
And the 9 minutes of full BAB? Not sure what the BAB is for an arti, and I'm far too lazy to look it up on the wiki. Not even sure to-hit is an issue for anyone anymore.

Paladin past life is 2:12 x3 Divine Favor not Divine Power.  You already get full BAB from Tenser's Transformation.
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Walking through most content. Having a blast. As fun as my AC build
  

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Carpone wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 8:03am:
Paladin past life is 2:12 x3 Divine Favor not Divine Power.  You already get full BAB from Tenser's Transformation.


Oh. Right.
  
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I'm still lost.

Granted feat:  You were a Paladin in a past life. You occasionally find yourself overcome with righteous fervor. Each time you acquire this feat you gain 5% more health when affected by positive energy. (This feat can be stacked up to 3 times, providing an additional 5%, 10% then 15% Healing Amplification)

It's warforged no no need for that.

Purchased feat:  You recall more about your past life as a paladin. You have +2 to your Heal skill, and can invoke Divine Favor upon yourself 3 times per rest. (Activate this paladin ability to call upon the strength and wisdom of a deity to grant a +1 luck bonus on weapon attack and damage. This bonus is increased by +1 for every 3 caster levels beyond level 3, maximum +3 luck bonus. About 2 minutes per use.)

With only 2 pally level it looks like you get a +1 to hit/damage.  I'm just not sure if running thru a whole life of pally is worth it for just that and I don't think spending the feat is either.

I ask because I'm about to TR a ranger into a Jug.  I was gonna do the past life Pally as it says in the forums but it just doean't seem worth it.
  
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Pally active life works off your character level.  Extend
used to impact it, I don't know if that still works.
  
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Disavowed wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 3:05pm:
With only 2 pally level it looks like you get a +1 to hit/damage.  I'm just not sure if running thru a whole life of pally is worth it for just that and I don't think spending the feat is either.

I ask because I'm about to TR a ranger into a Jug.  I was gonna do the past life Pally as it says in the forums but it just doean't seem worth it.


All PL feats are based on character level, not class level (class level would make zero sense for what they're intended for).

Even though you get +3/+3, I'll join you in not understanding the point of it though. Pally PL was well worth it when to-hit mattered, but blowing a feat for +3 damage that you have to recast every 2 mins?
  
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cdr wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 3:10pm:
All PL feats are based on character level, not class level (class level would make zero sense for what they're intended for).

Even though you get +3/+3, I'll join you in not understanding the point of it though. Pally PL was well worth it when to-hit mattered, but blowing a feat for +3 damage that you have to recast every 2 mins?


What part of min/max do you not understand? People will run over their mother with a lawnmower for less than +3 stacking points for 6 minutes a rest.
  

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spathic wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 3:24pm:
People will run over their mother with a lawnmower for less than +3 stacking points for 6 minutes a rest.   



This is true, but would you personally go run an entire life just to get it?  I'm going to run one more life thru on her as it's an old bank toon on it's first life.  So I'm wondering if there would be a better PL to do.  Also I've never once rolled a Pally so it could be a learning experience.  I've never rolled a monk either.  It just seems like too much button mashing for either class to make it optimal.
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cdr wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 3:10pm:
All PL feats are based on character level, not class level (class level would make zero sense for what they're intended for).



OK TY for pointing that out and TY Tobril as well.  I wasn't paying enough attention.
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Disavowed wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 4:04pm:
This is true, but would you personally go run an entire life just to get it?  I'm going to run one more life thru on her as it's an old bank toon on it's first life.  So I'm wondering if there would be a better PL to do.  Also I've never once rolled a Pally so it could be a learning experience.  I've never rolled a monk either.  It just seems like too much button mashing for either class to make it optimal.


Oh fuck no, I wouldn't. That was just my comment on why people do that.

My mules are paladins. I keep telling myself to TR someone into a paladin for one life, just for the challenge. But havent yet.   
  

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Disavowed wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 4:04pm:
This is true, but would you personally go run an entire life just to get it?  I'm going to run one more life thru on her as it's an old bank toon on it's first life.  So I'm wondering if there would be a better PL to do.  Also I've never once rolled a Pally so it could be a learning experience.  I've never rolled a monk either.  It just seems like too much button mashing for either class to make it optimal.



Fuck an entire life just for that.

Plenty of feats in the sea.
  
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OK so I have to TR once more so what would be the consensus as to what would be the best past life for this build?
  
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