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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Juggernaut Reply #25 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 5:36pm	Print Post
	If you're going to do a PL anyway, just do the pally. Sheesh.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #26 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 12:08am	Print Post
	Disavowed wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 5:27pm: OK so I have to TR once more so what would be the consensus as to what would be the best past life for this build? Fighter for the +1 DC to Stunning Blow.


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Disavowed The Beerman Offline Posts: 6397 Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ Joined: Jan 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #27 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 3:23pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 5:36pm: If you're going to do a PL anyway, just do the pally. Sheesh. Ya I went fighter. Easy to level and I think it offers more benefits.


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spathic Stocky Greenis Offline Taunting the stupid since before you were born. Posts: 1623 Location: Shenandoah valley Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #28 - Feb 21^st, 2013 at 11:20pm	Print Post
	Disavowed wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 3:23pm: Ya I went fighter. Easy to level and I think it offers more benefits. Gunga would have capped by now. Discuss.

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Disavowed The Beerman Offline Posts: 6397 Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ Joined: Jan 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #29 - Feb 21^st, 2013 at 11:44pm	Print Post
	spathic wrote on Feb 21^st, 2013 at 11:20pm: Gunga would have capped by now. Discuss. There's nothing to discus. You're correct in your statement. Gunga is the king or TRing. My hat has been off to him for this accomplishment for a while now. Dude is a stud.


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ShaleraDagen Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 85 Joined: Jun 9^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #30 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 4:30am	Print Post
	NOTdarth wrote on Feb 12^th, 2013 at 3:11am: It's a pretty solid build. It has one flaw though. It's a toaster. I can't fucking stand to look at the toaster's back when I'm playing. I think this is the biggest reason, I will never build it - I simply will not ever play a warforged again. I am thinking of trying out a human version if i decide to do another artificer life on my completionist, just because I can and if it sucks it can easily die when it hits 20.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #31 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:50am	Print Post
	ShaleraDagen wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 4:30am: I think this is the biggest reason, I will never build it - I simply will not ever play a warforged again.� I am thinking of trying out a human version if i decide to do another artificer life on my completionist, just because I can and if it sucks it can easily die when it hits 20. being human completely negates the reason to go Artificer.


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Tobril Honourary Australian Offline Hi Welcome Posts: 744 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Juggernaut Reply #32 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 11:13am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:50am: being human completely negates the reason to go Artificer. Extra challenge? Quickened recon is so mainstream.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #33 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:10pm	Print Post
	Well you can take construct essence and get 50% of a WF's healing power via quickened reconstruct.


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Tobril Honourary Australian Offline Hi Welcome Posts: 744 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Juggernaut Reply #34 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:39pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:10pm: Well you can take construct essence and get 50% of a WF's healing power via quickened reconstruct. Do you get the attack speed boost?


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #35 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:47pm	Print Post
	Tobril wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 11:13am: Extra challenge? Quickened recon is so mainstream. You want a self-healing fleshie go pally/bard/ranger/cleric/FvS . . . something with Divine magic. The whole point of going arti on the robot is quickened-recon.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #36 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:48pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:10pm: Well you can take construct essence and get 50% of a WF's healing power via quickened reconstruct. What's that work out to be? Serious question. I've got a Ranger who's quickened/maxxed CSW hits for about 350 . . . if you could get about the same it might be viable. I still don't think it's a good idea.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #37 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 4:05pm	Print Post
	Depends on your repair spell power. Whatever your WF jug is getting, divide it by 2 and that's what you'll get, with the same gear. For instance I have a WF sorc who took most (if not all) of the repair line. He has a 120 item and a few more bumps from destinies. A self-cast reconstruct hits him for 535. Halve that and you're at almost 270. But that's a rather heavy investment, depending on if you can slot 120 repair and if you're willing to take a lot of repair enhancements. Then again, my arti is strictly a crafter these days so I don't know that you can take +70 SP to reconstruct via enhancements.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #38 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 4:05pm	Print Post
	Tobril wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:39pm: Do you get the attack speed boost? I don't honestly know. I can log into my human crafting arti later and see if it works. I want to say the answer is no, but I'm not 100% certain.


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ShaleraDagen Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 85 Joined: Jun 9^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #39 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 2:08am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:50am: being human completely negates the reason to go Artificer. Well, it isn't that I don't realize why they went WF, but my hatred of playing WF is enough that i don't care. It will just be a past life build and from my memory of my last Artificer life - UMD is high enough to do heal scrolls anyways so with pots and scrolls and my collection of silver flame pots (for oh shit situations), I will probably survive fine.


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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #40 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 7:51am	Print Post
	ShaleraDagen wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 2:08am: Well, it isn't that I don't realize why they went WF, but my hatred of playing WF is enough that i don't care. It will just be a past life build and from my memory of my last Artificer life - UMD is high enough to do heal scrolls anyways so with pots and scrolls and my collection of silver flame pots (for oh shit situations), I will probably survive fine. There's also the part where you're immune to a lot of shit like Hold, and honestly, WF are still top casters.

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ShaleraDagen Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 85 Joined: Jun 9^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #41 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 12:48pm	Print Post
	Smrti wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 7:51am: There's also the part where you're immune to a lot of shit like Hold, and honestly, WF are still top casters. They got rid of a lot of the immune things - but that doesn't change the fact that WF look stupid and make me complain when i play them...


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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #42 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 4:48pm	Print Post
	ShaleraDagen wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 12:48pm: They got rid of a lot of the immune things - but that doesn't change the fact that WF look stupid and make me complain when i play them... Immune to Hold. No need for Fom except grease.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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OnePercenter Advocatus Diaboli Offline Ants Eat Dead Grasshoppers Posts: 9985 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #43 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:12pm	Print Post
	ShaleraDagen wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 12:48pm: They got rid of a lot of the immune things - but that doesn't change the fact that WF look stupid and make me complain when i play them... Have you tried the hair dyes? I find that does wonders for them.

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Meriki Korthos Resident Offline Play smarter, not harder! Posts: 12 Location: http://www.ddmsrealm.com Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2013	Re: Juggernaut Reply #44 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:54pm	Print Post
	I haven't played this one myself but a few guidies are running these and love em. Not sure the exact variants though.

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ShaleraDagen Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 85 Joined: Jun 9^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #45 - Feb 24^th, 2013 at 1:23am	Print Post
	OnePercenter wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:12pm: Have you tried the hair dyes?� I find that does wonders for them. haha, when my wizard was still warforged she always seemed to win hair-dos from the lottery (come to think of it they were always male hair-dos and male toons is also something I don't do


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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #46 - Feb 24^th, 2013 at 1:47am	Print Post
	Just XP Stoned to 18. I have so many spells now guys.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Nubicus Dragon Raider Offline Dick 2020 Posts: 232 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2012	Re: Juggernaut Reply #47 - Feb 24^th, 2013 at 5:08pm	Print Post
	What gear set up do you guys envision as 'optimal' for this build?


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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #48 - Feb 24^th, 2013 at 7:22pm	Print Post
	Nubicus wrote on Feb 24^th, 2013 at 5:08pm: What gear set up do you guys envision as 'optimal' for this build? eSoS/Cleaver with Planar Conflux. Pinion as high as the upgrades will go. Someone mentioned the T3 Ring of Artifice before. Basically, anything that works on a good THF melee toon, with extra Ranged bits added here and there should work. If you can see the other forum, check the thread for a ton of gearsets that folks have been posting.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Juggernaut Reply #49 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 7:19am	Print Post
	rest wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:10pm: Well you can take construct essence and get 50% of a WF's healing power via quickened reconstruct. Let me know how that 217 quickened Reconstruct works out for you on your fleshy in EE content.


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