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Re: New FOT?
Reply #100 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:26am
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Bigjunk wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:19am:
I solo'd the Reaver on EN on a melee ranger and tanked him with my face.  Nobody else even needed absorb.


I soloed him on a fighter on EN and EH. So?

If a single person gets the boom plague and runs into the party, anyone without an elec absorb is going to be almost immediately dead. This is going to happen a lot in PUGs.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=412574 is crap writing but it gives you an idea of the mechanic if you haven't done it yet.
  
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Reply #101 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:53am
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Re: New FOT?
Reply #102 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 4:57am
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Bigjunk wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:19am:
On higher difficulties you could bounce aggro between two mooks with Intim when they get too many debuffs


That's what we did when we did on on EH Tuesday.
We had two rangers ( yes you read, ranger, no need for monkeys )  bounce the aggro between two pillars, and the rest was on Truthful at the other end of the place.
From what I've seen if the Reaver stay between two pillars the area of the storm/boom reach a little bit further than downstair, so as a Cleric standing well away from Truthfull Breath/fight while staying safe from Reaver Storm Boom is quite easy, and you can still hjeeel the melee on Truthfull. We also had a FvS (for a while then a Wolf when the FvS died ) running up and down in the middle chased by a pack of undead dragons and some trash mob.

As long as Group Coordination is good, the bouncing guys don't mess up, and you have somebody to play with the undead dragons the thing is pretty straightforward.

Bigjunk wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:21am:
Not everyone needs the twist for EN,


Asking again : what twist, and for what reason ?
I don't remember anybody being asked having something special from a given destiny when I did it with my guild.
  

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Reply #103 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:58am
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Flav wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 4:57am:
Asking again : what twist, and for what reason ? I don't remember anybody being asked having something special from a given destiny when I did it with my guild.


The claim is that FoT will be impossible to complete without the Draconic Incarnation first tier energy sheath.  Those of us who have managed to complete it without said twist must either be amazing or just lucky.  I'm going with amazing! Tongue
  

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Reply #104 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:13am
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So what I'm getting out of all this is:  FoT needs a Reaver tank just like ToD needs a shadow tank.  Just different mechanics involved. 

Oh, and anal.
  
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Reply #105 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:22am
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cdr wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:26am:
If a single person gets the boom plague and runs into the party, anyone without an elec absorb is going to be almost immediately dead. This is going to happen a lot in PUGs.



If pugs are tards they should be verbally abused until they cry and then squelched.  it's a short raid so if it goes terribly wrong just reform and go again.

This is no different than when LOB came out.
  
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Reply #106 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:25am
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Slug wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:13am:
So what I'm getting out of all this is:  FoT needs a Reaver tank just like ToD needs a shadow tank.  Just different mechanics involved. 

Oh, and anal.


yes, that's pretty much it.
  
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Re: New FOT?
Reply #107 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:15am
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Slug wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:13am:
So what I'm getting out of all this is:  FoT needs a Reaver tank just like ToD needs a shadow tank.  Just different mechanics involved. 

Oh, and anal.


Pretty much - did it EH in a pug. The tank went off and got 10% shiradi, 30% blocking and 10+15% GS, and was basically laughing all the way through - hitting him for ~5-600 damage, which with plenty of heal amp is easy.

As long as tarded people know that stay the fuck away from reaver means stay the fuck away from reaver, it's pretty easy.
  
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Re: New FOT?
Reply #108 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:37am
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Peechie wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:58am:
The claim is that FoT will be impossible to complete without the Draconic Incarnation first tier energy sheath.  Those of us who have managed to complete it without said twist must either be amazing or just lucky.  I'm going with amazing! Tongue


Ah, now it make sense... in a way...

*scratch head*

Now the weird question :

How did I manage to survive ( as a Cleric ) in EH ( to completion )  when I don't have a fucking Level of Draconic Incarnation ( the nearest is 5 level of Flower Sniffer Monkey Stuff ). I must have done something wrong. ( especially as beside 3 death during the course of the fight [ that got quickly raised once the retarded jail mechanism was lifted ] , all the death in my party occured during the last minute before Raid Completion )
  

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Reply #109 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:52pm
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Flav wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:37am:
How did I manage to survive


I'm sticking with the theme... you must be amazing too!  Welcome to the club!
  

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Re: New FOT?
Reply #110 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:11pm
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Goodthings will teach the rest of you all how not to suck...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=4952469#post4952469
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Nevynn wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 11:38pm:
Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment.


Calvet wrote on Oct 20th, 2011 at 12:18pm:
I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.  I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.


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Re: New FOT?
Reply #111 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:17pm
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Eladiun wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:11pm:
Goodthings will teach the rest of you all how not to suck...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=4952469#post4952469


I linked it already. Guy needs to learn how to write, but at least he made an effort.

Did quite a few FOTs today, PUGs are getting better. One EH even had maybe only 2 deaths.
  
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Re: New FOT?
Reply #112 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:55pm
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cdr wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:17pm:
I linked it already. Guy needs to learn how to write, but at least he made an effort.

Did quite a few FOTs today, PUGs are getting better. One EH even had maybe only 2 deaths.



English isn't his first language but I bet it's better than your second language.
  

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Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment.


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I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.  I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.


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Reply #113 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:58pm
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Noob question. 

How about placing a no-evasion barbarian with heal amp, 33% ring of djin, and energy sheath 50% to tank Stormreaver, with a healer baby sitter that can survive the boom?  They are both separated from Truthy.

Would that work?
  
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Reply #114 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 4:01am
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Why not just take the Cleric on the StormPiker and let the Barb wail away at the Truthful one.

  
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Reply #115 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 8:47am
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arjiwan wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:58pm:
Noob question. 

How about placing a no-evasion barbarian with heal amp, 33% ring of djin, and energy sheath 50% to tank Stormreaver, with a healer baby sitter that can survive the boom?  They are both separated from Truthy.

Would that work?


yes, the hits aren't that bad with that much absorption.  At least for hard, not sure about Elite.  I've been twisting in Block enrdgy as well for another 30% since there's an obvious tell.

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The Reaver needs to die to, as long as said cleric can beat him down that should be fine.
  
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Reply #116 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 2:26am
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cdr wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:26am:
If a single person gets the boom plague and runs into the party, anyone without an elec absorb is going to be almost immediately dead. This is going to happen a lot in PUGs.


Yeah, just finished healing my first FoT, and even with a Ring of Djinn and Mantle I died pretty freakin' fast when one of the melees managed to somehow get close enough to pick that up (even though leader said about 5000 times to stay the hell away from the Stormreaver). Otherwise, I don't see this raid being any worse than ToD was before Epic Destinies. I was in Exalted Angel with nothing but a couple first-level twists from Unyielding Sentinel and I had no problems staying alive, other than catching the Boom Plague.

(I know, I said I wouldn't heal this raid, but... Hard Shroud is getting boring, and nobody runs ToD or VoD anymore :p )
  
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Reply #117 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 6:05am
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Did 2 more tonight with competent people and there were no problems beyond the usual pre-patch issues. While placement of Stormreaver and Truthful One were more important, those didn't concern most of the party.

I could see the throw that the Stormreaver does on occasion be an issue for tanks that can re-establish aggro at range.


Also, I had Energy Sheath twisted for tanking the Stormreaver, but it seemed like it was getting dispelled every time he cast his bomb thing.
  
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Reply #118 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 8:34am
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as I pointed in one of the thread... If my Guild ( 60% Casuals, 30% Educated Casuals, 8% Gamers, 2% Power Gamers )  can pull it off with only 2 death ( screenies somewhere in the official forums ) after barely a week, it's not that difficult... It took us way longer to pull that in ToD or Shroud...
  

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Reply #119 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 3:01pm
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Yeah we drunks in LL did it a couple of times last night I don't remember much and passed out somewhere along a demon queen run but it was not bad I think if we can do it drunk with Canadian's anyone can do it lol.
  

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Reply #120 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 3:43pm
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Kalari wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 3:01pm:
Yeah we drunks in LL did it a couple of times last night I don't remember much and passed out somewhere along a demon queen run but it was not bad I think if we can do it drunk with Canadian's anyone can do it lol.


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Reply #122 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 10:46pm
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I hopped in the "fixed" raid without knowing it was changed. nothing like get plastered against the wall by lightning when you used to sleep walk in the quest and still succeed.
  

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Reply #123 - Mar 25th, 2013 at 12:39pm
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http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?&postid=4957453#post4957453

FoS asks if anyone is experiencing occasional no-loot in the FoT chest.
Ovrad replies: Sample size is too low, people are having troubles to complete.

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Reply #124 - Mar 25th, 2013 at 2:46pm
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Ovrad is a moron.  Let's turn it into another "oh no!  A raid is hard on Epic Hard difficulty! Woe is me.  I can't find my easy button anymore." thread.  There aren't enough of those already.
  
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