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Bigjunk
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New FOT?
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Are the people whining over the FOT changes just retarded or did the raid actually get much harder? Anyone run it yet?
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Re: New FOT?
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How many runs have you been in where the dragon and giant don't die at the same time? Now imagine that they res at 100% . . . Beyond the ability of most players to co-ordinate.
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There's been a change ?
Nothing in guild chat... and we had a party in there a bit earlier.
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Traps hit for a lot more now, djinn ring and energy sheath and you can still die on EH.
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And the disciple dragon come back as undead now even after the crystal was destroyed, yayfun
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Re: New FOT?
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I'm not thrilled with the changes, but it appears the raid was really intended all along to be a raid for ranged toons. And it doesn't really bother me that much that we have a raid designed for ranged toons.
Most melees should now work on fitting in Many Shot. Turbine is apparently trying to teach people to splash (Paladin, Monk and Ranger being big ones these days). This will probably net some profit for them, since most folks will screw up their splashes and need buy LR +X Hearts to fix them.
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Re: New FOT?
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Maybe I'll cram manyshot onto my stalwart after all... ouch. The one place where she shined in FOT was taking the reaver down solo while the rest of the group was on Truthful One, but now even that's not a good idea.
Who, exactly, thought a raid where the correct strategy was to kite literally everything was a good idea?
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cdr wrote
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Maybe I'll cram manyshot onto my stalwart after all... ouch. The one place where she shined in FOT was taking the reaver down solo while the rest of the group was on Truthful One, but now even that's not a good idea.
Who, exactly, thought a raid where the correct strategy was to kite literally everything was a good idea?
FoS trying his hand at raid design?
Opinions are like paraplegic circus penguins, no-one likes it when you shove one down their throat.
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Lots and lots of awesome nerdrage on the forums, I'm expecting a nerf.
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Re: New FOT?
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Well I'll see tonight, we have one planned with my guild...
If the nerdrage is accurate that's going to be a wipe.
*makes a note about not volunteering his clerics for it*
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Re: New FOT?
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It's much harder. Took me about twice as much time to solo it on EN than it usually takes me, and there were a lot of oh $^&# moments where in all rights should've died but got lucky and didn't.
Frankly though, the raid needed to be harder on all difficulties because it was way too easy. But not the way it was done. Like CITW, they fubared EE with bullshit mechanics that leave no possibility to strategize. I'm looking at you -4000 SP drain eyebeams.
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Bigjunk wrote
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Are the people whining over the FOT changes just retarded or did the raid actually get much harder? Anyone run it yet?
You have to deal with the Stormreaver bomb now. And the undead dragons always spawn, afaik. So it is harder. But not impossible.
It's the same thing as the Shroud blades...
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Infant wrote
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It's the same thing as the Shroud blades...
People keep saying that . . . but the insane Shroud blades from U12 was a bug.
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Bigjunk wrote
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People keep saying that . . . but the insane Shroud blades from U12 was a bug.
A good one, imho
. Not sure about FoT yet.
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Re: New FOT?
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I believe MaddMatt has pointed out that you all suck at raiding.
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stainer wrote
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I believe MaddMatt has pointed out that you all suck at raiding.
Which means it really can't be that bad if that chimp has it figured out.
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Bigjunk wrote
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Which means it really can't be that bad if that chimp has it figured out.
Easy with the chimp jokes, Hoss.
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Gunga wrote
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Easy with the chimp jokes, Hoss.
Sorry, no offense to any chimps out there who were offended by the comparison to Madmatt.
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Auran wrote
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FoS trying his hand at raid design?
HEY! He is good at his job! He's even good at jobs that aren't his. So just back off, thar!
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Re: New FOT?
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Bigjunk wrote
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Which means it really can't be that bad if that chimp has it figured out.
He didn't figure it out alone. It was a cooperative effort amongst those in the group that completed the EH version of the raid back-to-back last night with very few deaths. But for a slight hiccup in the second run, no one would have died at all in that one.
Yes, there are some changes (and a couple fairly significant ones) but they can easily be overcome with good tactics.
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And a tier one sheath.
And a PLIS. Because those are hard to get.
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kavinsky wrote
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And a tier one sheath.
And a PLIS. Because those are hard to get.
I hope it can at least be completed on Epic Normal without a Tier 1 sheath, because I don't think that level of grind is that reasonable for a casual player. Ring of the Djinn isn't hard to get though. Although a PITA to get the new version on all your toons that want to run FOT.
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Re: New FOT?
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Just tried for the first time since patch in a EH bad PUG, 10/12 died the instant the Reaver went active. That left me and a mana-less healer.
I stayed alive for a few mins with reaver+other giant on me, until reaver hit me for 862 through 33% absorb+10% absorb+60 resist.
1800 pt unavoidable attack that hits the entire group most of the time? And debuffs your save? Brilliant idea.
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Arkat wrote
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He didn't figure it out alone. It was a cooperative effort amongst those in the group that completed the EH version of the raid back-to-back last night with very few deaths. But for a slight hiccup in the second run, no one would have died at all in that one.
Yes, there are some changes (and a couple fairly significant ones) but they can easily be overcome with good tactics.
Norge is spoiled. He has a bunch of strong players follow him and then talks like his "tactics" are the best thing since sliced bread, even though it's completely unrelated to the success of his group.
I mean he says that a single melee can kill a dragon in 30 seconds but in the same breath disparages the tactic of a ranged toon kiting the dragons because a "ranged toon is not contributing DPS on the boss at the same time". He is way too critical of others who find other tactics or change builds to suit their playstyle. I would like to see the day when he stops being a
focal point
and learns that his way to play the game is not the only way or even necessarily the best. I think he could do with an ounce of humility.
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And yes, madmatt is a fucking moron.
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