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Terebinthia
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Re: New FOT?
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Kalari wrote
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I'll be doing this "Fixed" raid Friday night with my guild the only thing that bothers me about this "Fix" is they waited till many of us who do their press and report to magazines with the earlier version of this raid.
No where were we informed that there were issues with this raid and many of us praised the FOT as one of the great features of update 17.
Its not hard to feel a little duped though I am sure others at massively and TTH don't really give a crap.
That is an angle I had't thought of. Hmmm. Personally I suspect they put it in deliberately broken so that people would blow lots of TPs on raid bypass times before they fixed it /tinfoilhat
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Re: New FOT?
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Kalari wrote
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I'll be doing this "Fixed" raid Friday night with my guild the only thing that bothers me about this "Fix" is they waited till many of us who do their press and report to magazines with the earlier version of this raid.
No where were we informed that there were issues with this raid and many of us praised the FOT as one of the great features of update 17.
Its not hard to feel a little duped though I am sure others at massively and TTH don't really give a crap.
Did you get linkbacks to your blog from some of the MMO rags? If not, it's not too late to kill it
EDIT: I meant the article, not your blog.
(grumble, grumble): and leslie for that matter.
EDIT: this was WAI, tho.
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Re: New FOT?
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rest wrote
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You've got your posters mixed up. I penned that masterpiece.
Now apologize RIGHT NOW to stainer for mistaking him for me. Nobody deserves that.
You all look alike to me, though! Light blue, dark text, little white in the background.
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Re: New FOT?
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Terebinthia wrote
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That is an angle I had't thought of. Hmmm. Personally I suspect they put it in deliberately feather_of_sun'ed so that people would blow lots of TPs on raid bypass times before they fixed it /tinfoilhat
LEAVE FEATHER ALONE!!!!!!!
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Re: New FOT?
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karatekid wrote
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LEAVE FEATHER ALONE!!!!!!!
It's not like he meant everything he touched to be brok
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I <3 that sub - makes me chuckle every time
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Terebinthia wrote
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I <3 that sub - makes me chuckle every time
Sure blame the sub!
Gotchyer back, Feather! <scarf fist bump>
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Re: New FOT?
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My review of the whole update wasn't that great but I did tout the raid being one of the best features.
Rest Im going to cleric again Friday night so expect a wipe lol I thought about trying to do it sober but no freaking way I have heard our guild drunk while Im sober no way I am subjecting myself to that kinda torture dunno how ya did it all this time lol.
And yeah it just seems pretty damned shifty to me but i'll know better next time they have a major update to just wait a while before doing any write ups.
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Re: New FOT?
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karatekid wrote
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Sure blame the sub!
Gotchyer back, Feather! <scarf fist bump>
Careful there, scarf boy.
I'd imagine it's pretty easy to injure yourself with that type of limp wristed fist bump.
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Re: New FOT?
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Just did an EN PUG. 8/12 died when reaver became active, two or three dozen deaths from when Reaver became active until finish. The hardest part seems to be getting puggers to understand that the lightning is infectious.
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Re: New FOT?
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cdr wrote
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Just did an EN PUG. 8/12 died when reaver became active, two or three dozen deaths from when Reaver became active until finish. The hardest part seems to be getting puggers to understand that the lightning is infectious.
So only have one mook beat on the Reaver?
Is there an obvious tell before the boom?
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kierg10 wrote
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all i read.
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That was the only important part anyway.
Mission accomplished
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Re: New FOT?
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Osharan Tregarth wrote
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Careful there, scarf boy.
I'd imagine it's pretty easy to injure yourself with that type of limp wristed fist bump.
Not so long as we have our driving gloves on.
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Re: New FOT?
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Bigjunk wrote
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So only have one mook beat on the Reaver?
Is there an obvious tell before the boom?
I had sheathe+EE ring of djinn+primal shield, so I was that mook. 5-stacked EN boom was still hitting me for 300 every 15 seconds even with 50%+33%+10% absorb and 60 resist. I wonder what EH will do. I barely even had to drink SF pots though, obviously, since the reaver does nil damage aside from the new attack.
Someone with the boom DOT on them will be continuously struck with a LitII-style lightning bolt, which will also start striking anyone else nearby and infect them. If you're infected you also get an easy-to-miss bit of text in the middle of the screen, dunno if you get the text if you're not infected but nearby. If someone other than the tank gets it on them, they should probably go away from everyone else until it goes away or they die.
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Re: New FOT?
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cdr wrote
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I had sheathe+EE ring of djinn+primal shield, so I was that mook. 5-stacked EN boom was still hitting me for 300 every 15 seconds even with 50%+33%+10% absorb and 60 resist. I wonder what EH will do. I barely even had to drink SF pots though, obviously, since the reaver does nil damage aside from the new attack.
Someone with the boom DOT on them will be continuously struck with a LitII-style lightning bolt, which will also start striking anyone else nearby and infect them. If you're infected you also get an easy-to-miss bit of text in the middle of the screen, dunno if you get the text if you're not infected but nearby. If someone other than the tank gets it on them, they should probably go away from everyone else until it goes away or they die.
is there an obvious tell so you can "block" it and get that extra 30% absorption from Sentinel?
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Re: New FOT?
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Bigjunk wrote
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is there an obvious tell so you can "block" it and get that extra 30% absorption from Sentinel?
The "3 2 1 boom" text you get, I expect. I hardly notice it though since I'm trying to pay attention to my health, the stormreaver's health, the dracolitch's health, the stormreaver's positioning, the lich's positioning, etc.
I'm not really a fan of Sentinel unless it's going to make a raid much easier (EE DQ) and Block Energy is a T3 twist... meh. Maybe for EE.
The damage is just stupidly overtuned. They need to fix that at a minimum.
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That was the only important part anyway.
sorry, I should clarify.
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Re: New FOT?
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Bigjunk wrote
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is there an obvious tell so you can "block" it and get that extra 30% absorption from Sentinel?
"Stormreavers Lightning Arc clings(?) to you. 3...2...1...Boom!"
All over your screen.
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Eladiun wrote
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This from the guy who says it's taking him twice as long to SOLO a raid on EN. Waaaaaa.... Want a binky you fucking pansy.
I'm not being a pansy, I'm saying the mechanic is stupid. You want a challenge? Fine, that's what EE is for. But EN should be completable with a pug without much challenge. But the only way to complete even EN is to have a specific twist and have people grind out a huge amount of time farming destinies they don't care about.
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AtomicMew wrote
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I'm not being a pansy, I'm saying the mechanic is stupid. You want a challenge? Fine, that's what EE is for. But EN should be completable with a pug without much challenge. But the only way to complete even EN is to have a specific twist and have people grind out a huge amount of time farming destinies they don't care about.
But is this hyperbole or can you do it on EN without the twist? If you can't I'm right there with you torchwaving, becasue I think this is designed to be a social raid, with the tiers geared for more grind, and they damn well need to make EN entry level (or at the bare minimum ROTD entry level)
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Just curious, but has anyone looked to see if those damn Madstone rods are worth using in FoT? I grabbed one on my rogue, but apparently can't use is even though I have a 43 UMD. Stupid class restrictions...
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Another EN, another ~8 people dying with the first Reaver attack. This was a mostly-guild run I joined from a more casual guild. People were on voice and listened, I was the only one near the reaver when he went active, but both the healers somehow immediately caught the plague and bit it shortly followed by another 6 people.
Even on EN, I dunno how you avoid a near party wipe if the entire party doesn't have absorb. The plague doesn't go away until everyone who has it dies, pretty much, since it continually re-infects anyone near who doesn't have it.
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cdr wrote
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Even on EN, I dunno how you avoid a near party wipe if the entire party doesn't have absorb. The plague doesn't go away until everyone who has it dies, pretty much, since it continually re-infects anyone near who doesn't have it.
Yeap - that sure sounds like MY definition of "fun"...
*marks off another raid I won't be running on my Clerics*
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The pug I joined did epic normal which is a complete joke. People who can't handle that should just uninstall the game.
Reaver tank died, took over on my ranger with with 50% sheath. got hit for about 400 and change, healed myself though it. Not tough at all. I'm gonna try it with Djin Ring, 50% sheath, Tier III twist from Sentinel, and 15% from Shiradis. that should allow for easy-button face-tanking.
Biggest issue was pugs acting like tards, that's best brought in line with proper nerd-rage therapy.
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cdr wrote
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Even on EN, I dunno how you avoid a near party wipe if the entire party doesn't have absorb. The plague doesn't go away until everyone who has it dies, pretty much, since it continually re-infects anyone near who doesn't have it.
I solo'd the Reaver on EN on a melee ranger and tanked him with my face. Nobody else even needed absorb. He doesn't have a lot of HP.
On higher difficulties you could bounce aggro between two mooks with Intim when they get too many debuffs . . . but I'm not sure that's even needed as I think you can slot enough absorb to mitigate it to reasonable levels.
And yes, that tell is obvious. the 30% while blocking should pay off.
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Terebinthia wrote
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But is this hyperbole or can you do it on EN without the twist? If you can't I'm right there with you torchwaving, becasue I think this is designed to be a social raid, with the tiers geared for more grind, and they damn well need to make EN entry level (or at the bare minimum ROTD entry level)
Not everyone needs the twist for EN, I don't think everyone will need it for EH or even EE. Just the person designated as the reaver tank.
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