kavinsky wrote on May 2^nd, 2013 at 9:22am:

NW is completely free, all content all classes/races including the ones that are not released yet. unlike ddo that after lvl 12 or so you have to spend money to continiue playing, unless of course you are some kind of burnt out person tha enjoyes grinding the same retarded quests x1000

Luxgolg wrote on May 2^nd, 2013 at 9:57am:

Of course you have more stuff to run in wow cos its a freaking decade old game....

You get 4 class options (unless you count Guardian Fighter and Greatsword Fighter as separate classes).  That's not boring.  The same 4 from my Basic D&D red box in 1978.  Wow.  Cool. 

You think 4.0 D&D is going to be better than 3.5?  Even bastardized, MMO-ized 3.5 like DDO has? 

You think Neverwinter won't eventually run into balance and scaling and power creep issues like every MMO ever?  You think they won't ever nerf something or have lag or have a bug? 

Wake up.  Or just wait until something else new and shiny distracts you.   Squirrel!

Just another fanboi bleeding heart...

Asheras wrote on May 2^nd, 2013 at 10:52am:


Elf is a class in NWO?

Jon Van Caneghem wrote on May 2^nd, 2013 at 12:13pm:


Leslie is there, look him up.

Btw NW has 5 classes atm (3 days into beta, remember) and warlock is about to be released these days and prolly ranger after that.
Races are more than what DDO had at its launch..
human, elf, dwarf,half-elf, half-orc , tiefling and halfling.

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I was referring to the 4 human classes/d&D archteypes.  That basic D&D treated races as classes is an obvious flaw and a sample of the over simplicity in the gaming system that caused most people to migrate from D&D to Ad&D pretty quickly.

Neverwinter is coming out pretty low on class/race options.  This simplicity is not appealing to me.  The combat system, while addressing annoyances such as kiting and jump-casting, is also not a plus.  The 4th edition focus is also a shame.  I'd rather have feats, enhancements and PrE's than to have at-will, encounter, and daily powers. 

I'd rather roll up a new character in DDO (or TR an existing one and try a new build) than start a new character in a game with that few of options.  But, more power to you, Amsterdamaged.  I hope you enjoy the new game and have a ton of fun.

Asheras wrote on May 2^nd, 2013 at 12:39pm:


Agreed

Elegorne wrote on May 2^nd, 2013 at 12:45pm:

Sorry , i dont speak alien.

Jon Van Caneghem wrote on May 2^nd, 2013 at 1:02pm:


Yeah, I really wish DDO would have some kind of guild system or have a lot of content that just about anyone could solo. Making you group with strangers in order to have a healer/tank/control wizard/nuker is just crazy.

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Everything (including the 5 man dungeons) can be soloed in NW too so none makes you group. Also the holy trinity is not true for NW cos none needs to heal you and none needs to tank. exactly like ddo.

karatekid wrote on May 2^nd, 2013 at 1:16pm:

English is not my primary language so sorry if i misunderstood what you say.
No, its perfecty normal to long for a true old school dungeons and dragons game.. Every gamer with sweet memories from this setting does that    (by saying ad&d i was reffering to 2.5)