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Reply #50 - May 2nd, 2013 at 1:39pm
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Quadrovault wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 1:32pm:
While DDO has more customization and a better combat system imo, I still haven't found any ladder I couldn't climb in NWO.

NWO is a better game.

Ladders are not the primary reason why NW is better than DDO but its one of many.  Wink
Yep i havent notice any bugs in NW yet and the fact thats still in beta indicates that its only going to get better.
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Reply #51 - May 2nd, 2013 at 1:56pm
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Memnir wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 10:50am:
Ah, but why travel when you have such a scintillating example of sub-par kindergarten intellect to toy with right here?

The one with sub-par kindergarden intellect is you. Reason is all those stupid memes you keep spamming at ddo forums all those years.. Hi, Welcome!  Wink
  
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Reply #52 - May 2nd, 2013 at 2:05pm
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Jon Van Caneghem wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 1:26pm:
English is not my primary language so sorry if i misunderstood what you say.



Nope, you got it.
  
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Reply #53 - May 2nd, 2013 at 2:09pm
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karatekid wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 2:05pm:
Nope, you got it.

Then am better at english than i thought  Cool . Good to know and thanks for the confirmation!
  
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Reply #54 - May 2nd, 2013 at 2:12pm
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karatekid wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 1:16pm:
Would the fact I still long for 2.5 indicate I have "get off my lawn" issues?



Try NEXT.
  

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Reply #55 - May 2nd, 2013 at 2:16pm
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Memnir wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 10:50am:
scintillating 

Hahaha . My english-fu is weak but my search-fu is strong.
Dont even think you re more intelligent than me because you know how to use words like that Tongue especialy now that you know english is not my 1st language  Cheesy
JK of course
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Reply #56 - May 2nd, 2013 at 2:32pm
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Eladiun wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 2:12pm:
Try NEXT.

What's that?
  
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Reply #57 - May 2nd, 2013 at 2:34pm
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Jon Van Caneghem wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 2:32pm:
What's that?

He wasn't talking to you.
  

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Reply #58 - May 2nd, 2013 at 2:36pm
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Arkat wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 2:34pm:
He wasn't talking to you.

He wasnt talking to you either. Nor do i. now go back to what you doing.
  
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Reply #59 - May 2nd, 2013 at 2:49pm
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Nevynn wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 11:38pm:
Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment.


Calvet wrote on Oct 20th, 2011 at 12:18pm:
I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.  I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.


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Reply #60 - May 2nd, 2013 at 2:50pm
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NWO isn't my thing; the combat is Tera for Dummies, there's a huge lack of character customization and abilities (No multiclassing, feat system, beginning stats mean little to nothing), and the graphics look too much like EQ2 for my liking.  Race choice also means little to nothing.

Sure, it has its advantages over DDO; ladders work and lag is non-existent, but then again most other MMOs have these 'features' as well.  I'll hold my breath for FF14:ARR or EQ Next instead of investing time into NWO.
  
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Reply #61 - May 2nd, 2013 at 2:53pm
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Eladiun wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 2:49pm:

Thanks for the link man.
So this is the 5th edition right? i ve heard its going to be very close to what 2nd edition was. Cant wait for that!
  
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Reply #62 - May 2nd, 2013 at 3:10pm
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Jon Van Caneghem wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 2:53pm:
Thanks for the link man.
So this is the 5th edition right? i ve heard its going to be very close to what 2nd edition was. Cant wait for that!



Yes and from what I've seen yes.
  

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Reply #63 - May 2nd, 2013 at 3:17pm
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Eladiun wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 3:10pm:
Yes and from what I've seen yes.

woot! i cant stand 4th edition, for pnp that is.
I bought the 3 player's handbooks and the dark sun campaign setting and creature catalog but i really regretted this...
I really hope wizards can return d&d to its former glory.
  
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Reply #64 - May 2nd, 2013 at 3:24pm
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Jon Van Caneghem wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 3:17pm:
woot! i cant stand 4th edition, for pnp that is.


There are parts I like and parts I don't.
  

Nevynn wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 11:38pm:
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Reply #65 - May 2nd, 2013 at 3:28pm
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Eladiun wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 3:24pm:
There are parts I like and parts I don't.

I agree. there are some good stuff in there too.
I think most people that say 3.x was so much better havnt really read the 4th edition rules.
Im also a dark sun material collector so i couldnt miss that.
  
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Reply #66 - May 2nd, 2013 at 3:43pm
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I'm downloading Neverwinter right now. Even on my horrible connection3 gig is 7 hours. It's not a big investment. If DDO is busy ripping out all the customisability why would I, as a new player, go to DDO? I can try both for free....

I just really don't get what they are doing here, in marketing terms. It's a niche game, it always will be. Why not play to your strengths? I'd eat my hat if consumables / TR stuffs / XP pots weren't their bread and butter anyway...
  
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Reply #67 - May 2nd, 2013 at 4:06pm
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I havnt even checked ddo for 2 days now but if this is true and they have a downtime now this is a really bad move from turbine.
Now people, having nothing else to do will download NW and after playing for a bit they wont feel like they want to abandon it after the time they invested on the game.

And imagine if those guy's toons are nerfed with the enchantment pass too.
I think ddo is going to lose a lot of players these days.
  
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Reply #68 - May 2nd, 2013 at 4:19pm
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Sadly, I have an MBa, and one of the things I remember from my Marketing stuffs is understand your USP.

DDO has always been a niche game with good grouping, reasonably OK voice chat, heavily instanced INTERESTING instances and most importantly real character customisation, so you can come up with good stuff that works for you.

I'm not an OMG DPS person, I tend to build for survivability and flexibility (hence I have two melee divine, a pale master, a survivability focussed light monk and an exploiter, amongst others) and while I always expect my builds are not uber flavour of the month stuff, never had a jugg or a monkcher, they do what they say on the tin. I don't think it is fair to say DDO is all juggs and monkchers. right now the powergamers might be doing that, but the casuals outnumber those folks by far. I suspect the profit balance is way more on casuals buying cakes and stupid packs they don't need and spell pots, with maybe the powergamers buying buypasses and XP pots (although those are bought by casuals too).

What is so important in DDO is the flexibility, hence Gimps and permadeath and all those things. Push it into a basic tree go for it thing and it really won't be the same game. And why would you stick with DDO when so many other tree driven minimal choice MMOs do it better? I know my customer service experience has been way better with Wow, Everquest, DCUO and Arenanet that it ever has with Turbine. If they want to deliver generic MMO, there are simply several companies higher up on the pecking order that I would trust to do it better.
  
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Reply #69 - May 2nd, 2013 at 4:32pm
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Terebinthia wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 4:19pm:
Sadly, I have an MBa, and one of the things I remember from my Marketing stuffs is understand your USP.

DDO has always been a niche game with good grouping, reasonably OK voice chat, heavily instanced INTERESTING instances and most importantly real character customisation, so you can come up with good stuff that works for you.

I'm not an OMG DPS person, I tend to build for survivability and flexibility (hence I have two melee divine, a pale master, a survivability focussed light monk and an exploiter, amongst others) and while I always expect my builds are not uber flavour of the month stuff, never had a jugg or a monkcher, they do what they say on the tin. I don't think it is fair to say DDO is all juggs and monkchers. right now the powergamers might be doing that, but the casuals outnumber those folks by far. I suspect the profit balance is way more on casuals buying cakes and stupid packs they don't need and spell pots, with maybe the powergamers buying buypasses and XP pots (although those are bought by casuals too).

What is so important in DDO is the flexibility, hence Gimps and permadeath and all those things. Push it into a basic tree go for it thing and it really won't be the same game. And why would you stick with DDO when so many other tree driven minimal choice MMOs do it better? I know my customer service experience has been way better with Wow, Everquest, DCUO and Arenanet that it ever has with Turbine. If they want to deliver generic MMO, there are simply several companies higher up on the pecking order that I would trust to do it better.


I, until this month have been VIP forever, and just in the last 12 months average $200 in the DDO store. I am sure some of that average is off kilter from ottos boxes but w/e I dump what the average player would consider a buttload of cash into the game. And it is almost all related to TR products XP pots, point cards for mana pots (can get a better rate then ddo store pots), True hearts, ottos  boxes and recently raid timers while also having the biggest sack Smiley  and bag space for every regularly played toon. So I think your spot on with the gamer analysis even tho I am probably on one extreme end of the scale.
  

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Reply #70 - May 2nd, 2013 at 5:30pm
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Jon Van Caneghem wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 1:56pm:
The one with sub-par kindergarden intellect is you. Reason is all those stupid memes you keep spamming at ddo forums all those years.. Hi, Welcome!  Wink


Once you delve into 'I know you are but what am I' territory it's too late to stop. Please continue.
  
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Reply #71 - May 2nd, 2013 at 5:50pm
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Just rolled a sweet joint and am about to log into NW. See you on beholder server guys  Wink
  
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Reply #72 - May 2nd, 2013 at 6:50pm
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Eladiun wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 3:10pm:
Yes and from what I've seen yes.

Yeah, I'm really digging the tester PDFs.  It totally reminds me of throwback to AD&D, which was my favorite system, but it's been modernized quite a bit, and not in a bad way.  I'm thoroughly enjoying it so far, which surprised me.
Eladiun wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 3:24pm:
There are parts I like and parts I don't.

Agreed here as well.  Unfortunately the number of things that I liked were far outweighted by the vast number of things that I didn't.
  

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Reply #73 - May 2nd, 2013 at 8:40pm
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Terebinthia wrote on May 2nd, 2013 at 4:19pm:
hence I have two melee divine, a pale master, a survivability focussed light monk and an exploiter, amongst others


Don't be ridiculous, Tere. Obviously you only have 8 juggernauts.
  

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Reply #74 - May 2nd, 2013 at 9:14pm
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I'm honestly a little bummed. Asketes hasn't been taken on anything I've ever registered for, yet it's taken on NW. That's a first, considering it is not a word in any modern language in use :/
  
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