Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2]  Send TopicPrint
Hot Topic (More than 35 Replies) Data Files Discussion (Read 19741 times)
whothefuckami
Stormreaver Piker
*
Offline


Oppan Gangnam Style

Posts: 599
Joined: Oct 6th, 2010
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #25 - May 19th, 2013 at 7:39pm
Print Post  
mudfud wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 5:18pm:
Do what I did. Find someone who posts regularly on your server forums, then see if they have a username here. If not great for you, you got a ddo vault username. Bad for them because if turbine does infract for things said here over there, that person will be wondering why the hell they getting in trouble.


Yeah thought of doing that, but the biggest fucktard on my server had an account here before I did
  

Troll account, please ignore
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Mr.Brown
Dragon Raider
***
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 205
Joined: May 4th, 2013
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #26 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 12:43am
Print Post  
The file format is slightly different for client_gamelogic.dat.

There is another layer of sub-directory. The files themselves are totally different.

Normally you have the following:

Header gives a pointer to the directory.
The directory gives several pointers towards subdirectories.
A subdirectory gives pointers towards file lists.
A file list points towards files with the file name, size and a few other things.

And a file starts with it's name.

For client_gamelogic you have the following:

The header points towards a directory
the directory gives pointers towards sub-directories
the sub-directories gives pointers towards another set of sub-directories
that second set of sub-directories gives pointers towards the file list
the file list is unchanged (filename, file pointer, file size and a few other things)

Files start with 01. They are not DWord aligned and contain comments. Some of them are interesting:
Quote:
Ninja Spies can use shortswords.
Whirling Steel Strike lets monks use longswords.
Rangers treat scimitars as light when dual wielding.
[...]
High tier Tempest treats Scimitar as a light weapon?

Do all of these need to be persistent?
...Yes - we want to remove it if you respec your enhancements or cease dual wielding. Except the weapon type - that's unlikely to change on the fly.

Is .script OK for this?
...Yes - it could freely go into a .sscript, but there's no swords-specific sscript.

Is eq_sword.script ok for this?
...Yes - it could also go into eq_shared, but that's bloated enough as is.

Does this persistence stop the rest of the script from running?
...No - this is a dead-end switch. If it was in a sequence then it would do horrible, terribad things.
[...]
FIXME: Remove when new enhancement system goes live


The above text comes from several fields in the same file. The last one is towards the end of the file.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
whothefuckami
Stormreaver Piker
*
Offline


Oppan Gangnam Style

Posts: 599
Joined: Oct 6th, 2010
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #27 - Jun 17th, 2013 at 11:05pm
Print Post  
If I can be bothered going to the official forums, I have a lot of PMs there with partial info on what is where in the client files.

  

Troll account, please ignore
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Flav
Vault Frog
*
Offline


One Frog to Rule them
All!

Posts: 9970
Location: Land of the Frogs
Joined: Aug 29th, 2010
Gender: Male
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #28 - Jun 18th, 2013 at 2:19am
Print Post  
If you can be bothered, send them to Mr Brown, I'm sure he can make good use of the info.

  

Yes my avatar is an Hermine eating a Greenland Lemming for brunch.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Mr.Brown
Dragon Raider
***
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 205
Joined: May 4th, 2013
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #29 - Jul 14th, 2013 at 2:53pm
Print Post  
I am sorry I have been silent. Life happens.

It is difficult to link the content between dat files. To get the loot table I look in client_gamelogic.dat. To get the chests I look in general.dat. To get the loot description I look in client_local.dat. So far I cannot link the three together and understand them. I am missing something.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
qwerty1234
Ex Member


Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #30 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 11:16am
Print Post  
No need to apologize. This remains the only valuable thread on the vault.

Keep up the good work.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Flav
Vault Frog
*
Offline


One Frog to Rule them
All!

Posts: 9970
Location: Land of the Frogs
Joined: Aug 29th, 2010
Gender: Male
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #31 - Sep 6th, 2013 at 10:27am
Print Post  
this thread Rodrak if you are willing to unlurk enough to give us information here.

  

Yes my avatar is an Hermine eating a Greenland Lemming for brunch.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
whothefuckami
Stormreaver Piker
*
Offline


Oppan Gangnam Style

Posts: 599
Joined: Oct 6th, 2010
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #32 - Sep 12th, 2013 at 7:36am
Print Post  
Mr.Brown wrote on Jul 14th, 2013 at 2:53pm:
I am sorry I have been silent. Life happens.

It is difficult to link the content between dat files. To get the loot table I look in client_gamelogic.dat. To get the chests I look in general.dat. To get the loot description I look in client_local.dat. So far I cannot link the three together and understand them. I am missing something.



Rodrak never had the ability to do that either.

He would use empirically determined information (e.g. 'The shard of the sword of shadow only drops in the VON6 epic chest') as the information that linked the loot table he found with the SOS shard to the epic chest in eVON6. (Almost all my correspondance with him was pre-MOTU splitting the difficulties).

Most of discerning which chest was which was deduction, not anything else.
  

Troll account, please ignore
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Oghma
Korthos Resident
*
Offline



Posts: 3
Joined: Sep 12th, 2013
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #33 - Sep 12th, 2013 at 8:34am
Print Post  
Mr.Brown wrote on Jul 14th, 2013 at 2:53pm:
I am sorry I have been silent. Life happens.

It is difficult to link the content between dat files. To get the loot table I look in client_gamelogic.dat. To get the chests I look in general.dat. To get the loot description I look in client_local.dat. So far I cannot link the three together and understand them. I am missing something.


A lot of the time the extra "special" loot for a chest is added in the file for the dungeon itself. They are the files in client_cell_1.dat and client_cell_2.dat.

I wouldn't bother trying to decode those until you have a good handle on client_gamelogic.dat, client_general.dat and client_local_English.dat though. The format for the dungeon files is a bitch to work with.

In some ways information to do with the items and loot tables is the hardest to get.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
tachyon
Titan Demolisher
****
Offline



Posts: 369
Joined: Jun 28th, 2013
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #34 - Sep 12th, 2013 at 12:45pm
Print Post  
Maybe one day a Turbine employee will just go rogue and stumble upon this thread for us....  Smiley
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
mystafyi
Abbot Raider
**
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 836
Joined: Nov 10th, 2010
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #35 - Sep 12th, 2013 at 5:28pm
Print Post  
tachyon wrote on Sep 12th, 2013 at 12:45pm:
Maybe one day a Turbine employee will just go rogue and stumble upon this thread for us....  Smiley



hahaha how cute. someone still thinks turbine employee's are knowledgable or competant enough to understand their own database.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
cdr
Horoluth Raider
****
Offline


sleetstormer

Posts: 2813
Joined: Dec 29th, 2011
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #36 - Sep 12th, 2013 at 5:49pm
Print Post  
Considering the number of times Rodrak had to school them on their own loot tables, I kind of doubt anyone at Turbine has a clue.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
FakeStrake
Puppy Farmer
****
Offline


I Love Drama, Derailment
and Duping!

Posts: 1584
Location: Inferno side
Joined: Jul 5th, 2012
Gender: Male
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #37 - Nov 3rd, 2013 at 12:01am
Print Post  
tachyon wrote on Sep 12th, 2013 at 12:45pm:
Maybe one day a Turbine employee will just go rogue and stumble upon this thread for us....  Smiley


Interesting, check reply #18
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
SwashbucklerHater
Titan Demolisher
****
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 337
Joined: Sep 2nd, 2013
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #38 - Nov 3rd, 2013 at 3:57am
Print Post  
Very interesting. But I am wondering if someone edited that post. Cheesy
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Bill Z Bubb
Boobies Controller
*
Offline


I only know three chords!

Posts: 1238
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2012
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #39 - Nov 8th, 2013 at 1:33pm
Print Post  
I'd keep an eye on that guy, he seems like a spy.
  

            
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Skeet the Atomic Fucktard
Korthos Resident
*
Offline



Posts: 8
Joined: Nov 1st, 2013
Re: Data Files Discussion
Reply #40 - Nov 8th, 2013 at 1:53pm
Print Post  
Only been able to unpack a couple of .dat files because they are so freakin large. Though I'm curious to see what is in the rest of them.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 
Send TopicPrint