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Selee Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 985 Location: Atlanta, GA Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Skill tomes available on Lamma May 7^th, 2013 at 10:58pm	Print Post
	https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/416284-Skill-Tomes The highest seen so far in the thread is a +3 Concentration Skill Tome, won through Daily Dice. More P2W is all I see here..

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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #1 - May 7^th, 2013 at 11:18pm	Print Post
	Selee wrote on May 7^th, 2013 at 10:58pm: More P2W is all I see here.. Come on there is no P2W in DDO.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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QuantumFX Shroud Slacker Offline Now back to the GOOD part! Posts: 1170 Joined: Nov 15^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #2 - May 7^th, 2013 at 11:25pm	Print Post
	Ugh�


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Selee Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 985 Location: Atlanta, GA Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #3 - May 7^th, 2013 at 11:30pm	Print Post
	Up next on the DDO Store: classless tomes: use one of these to have all skills count as class skill.. because if you have no class, you have them all! Stay tuned for our Evasion and Divine Grace tomes, only 7999 TP each! (tomes do not last through TR).

	I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves. - Ronald Reagan Nice is for cowards and democrats - Red
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Cripey Shroud Slacker Offline Fuck you, thats my name. Posts: 1007 Joined: Jul 21^st, 2010 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #4 - May 7^th, 2013 at 11:33pm	Print Post
	Selee wrote on May 7^th, 2013 at 11:30pm: Up next on the DDO Store: classless tomes: use one of these to have all skills count as class skill.. because if you have no class, you have them all! Stay tuned for our Evasion and Divine Grace tomes, only 7999 TP each! (tomes do not last through TR). Are you really this retarded or are you quoting someone else?

	Grands Superhero IRL Or as they say in Ireland - Derp derp derp derp. Yellow moons. Lassie. Hordo wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:07am: EDIT: BTW I love your post.� It reads as if English is your 3rd language behind gibberish and dipshit. majmalphunktion wrote on Mar 20^th, 2014 at 6:11pm: what the fuck guys... Jeesus fucking shit. This shit gets me called to the principals office. Assholes.
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Peechie VoD Slasher Offline HellNo Kitty Posts: 1728 Joined: Nov 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #5 - May 7^th, 2013 at 11:36pm	Print Post
	Cripey wrote on May 7^th, 2013 at 11:33pm: Are you really this retarded or are you quoting someone else? He's really that retarded.

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neotheny Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 59 Joined: Mar 25^th, 2012	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #6 - May 8^th, 2013 at 4:32am	Print Post
	Selee wrote on May 7^th, 2013 at 11:30pm: Up next on the DDO Store: classless tomes: use one of these to have all skills count as class skill.. because if you have no class, you have them all! Stay tuned for our Evasion and Divine Grace tomes, only 7999 TP each! (tomes do not last through TR). also, +6 Constitution Tome of Swimming +15.


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kavinsky Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 213 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2012	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #7 - May 8^th, 2013 at 6:43am	Print Post
	Sell some stuff for TP. Buy crappy skill tomes. Profit?


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #8 - May 8^th, 2013 at 8:44am	Print Post
	Selee wrote on May 7^th, 2013 at 10:58pm: More P2W is all I see here.. Let's see what the drop-rate is in chest first.


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Flint Stormreaver Piker Offline I'm a Halfling on the EDGE! Posts: 567 Location: New Jersey or Armpit of the US Joined: Jul 20^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #9 - May 8^th, 2013 at 8:46am	Print Post
	Why bother? If you want a skill on a character build the character and gear it to do it. They won't see a penny from me for this.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #10 - May 8^th, 2013 at 8:56am	Print Post
	Flint wrote on May 8^th, 2013 at 8:46am: Why bother? If you want a skill on a character build the character and gear it to do it. They won't see a penny from me for this. +3 UMD on a toon that doesn't have it as a class-skill is ubber. +3 Intimidate is a recovered feat. The rest? meh.


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aDifferentHandle Abbot Raider Offline omg, that's the funky shit Posts: 996 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #11 - May 8^th, 2013 at 9:11am	Print Post
	For Casters, Concentration, Balance and Spellcraft/Heal/Repair/Perform are generally interesting.

	That's not opinion, that's science. And science is one cold hearted bitch with a 14 inch strap on.
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Flint Stormreaver Piker Offline I'm a Halfling on the EDGE! Posts: 567 Location: New Jersey or Armpit of the US Joined: Jul 20^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #12 - May 8^th, 2013 at 10:16am	Print Post
	These are not a need though. Any skill can be achieved to proper level in game with build and items. It's more of a perk item. Now if this causes skill dc creep then all bets are off. But I don't really think Turbine should go there making a store or rare chest loot item a must have.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #13 - May 8^th, 2013 at 10:26am	Print Post
	Flint wrote on May 8^th, 2013 at 10:16am: These are not a need though. Any skill can be achieved to proper level in game with build and items. It's more of a perk item. Now if this causes skill dc creep then all bets are off. But I don't really think Turbine should go there making a store or rare chest loot item a must have. I don't understand how you can't see the power increase in NOT having to build for something or slot items. Having to slot a UMD item full time versus not means more DPS or whatever. Getting heal-scroll UMD on a pure fighter is a bit of a pain, 3 points of UMD in this regard is huge. Equipping my pair of EChaos Blades on my pally is a real pain, 3 points there would make a difference. Would I want one on a toon who had UMD on a class skill? Probably not. But on toons who do not have a skill as a class-skill 3 points is a lot.


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NOTpopejubal Epic Poster Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 4096 Location: Let go or get dragged. Joined: Apr 17^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #14 - May 8^th, 2013 at 10:34am	Print Post
	I do like that there is now a breakdown of Base, Ability, Feat, Effects on skills down when you hover over them. That's a nice improvement. As long as they drop in chests with a similar frequency to Ability Tomes, I won't feel any more disgust with Turbine than I already do.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #15 - May 8^th, 2013 at 10:35am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on May 8^th, 2013 at 8:56am: The rest?� �meh. I'm meh?


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #16 - May 8^th, 2013 at 11:07am	Print Post
	At the bonuses I'm seeing it is seriously meh. A +3 means jack shit. Given an ML of 9, that makes me think they might go up to +5 or so by cap. I can see that being awesome for UMD, and possibly worthwhile for Intim tanks (like that matters anymore. It's not 2011) and maybe the new Heal/Spellcraft for spell power. Can't see it mattering all that much for any other skills, really.


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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #17 - May 8^th, 2013 at 11:38am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on May 8^th, 2013 at 11:07am: At the bonuses I'm seeing it is seriously meh.� A +3 means jack shit.� Given an ML of 9, that makes me think they might go up to +5 or so by cap.� I can see that being awesome for UMD, and possibly worthwhile for Intim tanks (like that matters anymore.� It's not 2011) and maybe the new Heal/Spellcraft for spell power.� Can't see it mattering all that much for any other skills, really.� Rogues or Bards... Could spread some points out or save an enhancement point. Remember you are saying you don't see a use now.� In a couple months when all Trap DC's and Fascinate DC's and Concentarion Checks all some how start failing by 2-3 points...well.
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	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Inkblack Puppy Farmer Vault WDA Offline _,\|,, Posts: 1553 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #18 - May 8^th, 2013 at 11:54am	Print Post
	A +3 UMD on my rogue means I don't have to swap equipment to hit a rez scroll 100% of the time, and also means I can think about hitting true rez scrolls all the time. Even then, I won't spend a penny on it.


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spathic Stocky Greenis Offline Taunting the stupid since before you were born. Posts: 1623 Location: Shenandoah valley Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #19 - May 8^th, 2013 at 1:01pm	Print Post
	+3 UMD means easier/earlier use of some of the useful arti scrolls like elemental weapons or adamantine weapons since they've got high UMD requirements.

	Instant asshole. Just add alcohol.
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Ekkehart Ex Member	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #20 - May 8^th, 2013 at 1:49pm	Print Post
	+3 UMD means I can deslot SF: UMD on my kensei. 1 feat is 1 feat.


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blackwolfe Waterworks Kobold Offline I like pie!! Posts: 108 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2011	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #21 - May 8^th, 2013 at 2:18pm	Print Post
	Don't forget, with the new Heal and Spellcraft skills a +3 to those stats gives a bonus to that particular casting power. +3 Heal = 3% positive healing spells boost * +3 spellcraft = 3% damaging spell power boost. * so the only way top get non-INT based casters a little more power out of an INT based skill. short of not dumping INT at creation that is. * = numbers pulled out of my rusty memory hole, might be inaccurate on the number but not the idea.

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NOTpopejubal Epic Poster Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 4096 Location: Let go or get dragged. Joined: Apr 17^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #22 - May 8^th, 2013 at 2:56pm	Print Post
	The Heal and Spellcraft are +Spellpower which are +% on the base healing/damage numbers. Going from 100 spellpower to 103 spellpower is a 1.5% increase in damage/healing. Going from 200 spellpower to 203 spellpower is a 1% increase in damage/healing. It's why I failed to give a crap about the last few spellpower on a Thaum quarterstaff. I looted one that has the two elements that I like and 114 is close enough to 120 so I'm not going to bother trying to get that last 6. I would be happy to get 114 or more on a third element, but that's not nearly as significant as just finding more sources of power in general to stack with each other.


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Flint Stormreaver Piker Offline I'm a Halfling on the EDGE! Posts: 567 Location: New Jersey or Armpit of the US Joined: Jul 20^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #23 - May 8^th, 2013 at 3:07pm	Print Post
	DDO to me is for fun. Not to sit there and grind every piece of gear or agonize over every single build choice anymore. If I want a character to be able to hit a UMD score I will build for it. But not every one of my characters will build for UMD. Sorry not all who play DDO need to be the uberest DPS and be able to no fail self heal. It's not that I don't see the power in saving a feat. It's I just don't sit there and min max my builds anymore. If you were on Khyber and didn't want me in your groups because of this so be it. Am I doing it? Not if it costs me money. Turbine screwed the pooch to me when they fucked with my account sub charges. I am not paying them a penny more than a sub fee right now and they can be glad they are even seeing that.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Skill tomes available on Lamma Reply #24 - May 8^th, 2013 at 3:45pm	Print Post
	Flint wrote on May 8^th, 2013 at 3:07pm: DDO to me is for fun. Not to sit there and grind every piece of gear or agonize over every single build choice anymore. If I want a character to be able to hit a UMD score I will build for it. But not every one of my characters will build for UMD. Sorry not all who play DDO need to be the uberest DPS and be able to no fail self heal. +3 UMD is FAR from mini-maxing minutia. It's a huge deal for anything that doesn't have a rogue/arti/bard level. regarding the current state of the game nobody wants to heal anyone else. If you're not building with some way of keeping yourself alive you must like sitting in never-filling LFMs. If the drop-rate is similar to Stat-tomes their acquisition won't be difficult. If it's similar to Yellow Dophants than it's really fucked up.


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