Dark_Helmet wrote on May 30^th, 2013 at 12:40am:


3GB?  Wow, you’re being really generous there.  Try 1GB.

WWWWAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPP?????

kavinsky wrote on May 30^th, 2013 at 2:05am:


They are only suckers if they can't afford the $50 they are spending.  If someone has plenty of disposable income, it's really not that big a deal.  It's only a dumb idea if you don't have any savings or have credit card debt and auto loans and such that you haven't paid off yet.

Daggertooth wrote on May 30^th, 2013 at 3:55am:


This is quite 99% of the issue. At the end of the day, in a "normal" mmo you should be able to say "Well, okay, but if I were VIP...". Not in DDO. Being VIP in DDO is really being fooled again and again. Lucky me that I canceled my subscription after 6 months.

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Um yeah... SWTOR has a real "I wish I was a subscriber" Thing going...

Eladiun wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 8:15pm:


SOE had the formula down, just rare enough and unique enough drops that everyone needed them ... fucking still hate those guys.

Stanley Nicholas wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 1:23pm:


As I previously stated, prior to your posting, I should have use a more generic term rather than a specific number.  A number implies a level of detail or certainy that did not exist.  I should have said "the overwhelming majority of players I speak with".  Not "95% of the players I speak with".  The second suggests I was keeping accurate data and doing the math.  I was not.

pnellesen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 4:23pm:


I think there are some logic flaws in their ViP/Expansion purchases program, beyond the fact that it sucks for ViP's to have to pay for content unless it is a major addition.  It's my understanding that you cannot access Eveningstar from the harbor without owning MoTU.  If that is true, you could, conceivably buy the new expansion and not be able to access it because you don't own the first expansion.  Also, you could be ViP and have the right to run Druid's Curse and The High Road, but not be able to get to them, since you don't own MoTU. 

Beyond the Rift is listed as a F2P quest, but, as I recall, the menu option in the Harbor doesn't allow you to go to the spinner's prison unless you own the Expansion Pack.  I could be wrong.  If so, ignore the above.  I don't have any accounts that don't own MoTU, so I can't test it.  All of this is moot while the portal is up in the harbor.  I am assuming that will go away, though, when Spinner's Prison is fixed.

Laraeph wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 5:42pm:


Did they take the portal that was put in to bypass the broken Spinner of Shadows quest or did they actually enter the rift?

Cool.  I wasn't sure.  I know it always says (MOTU expansion pack) in parenthesis behind going to the Spinners Prison to go to Beyond the Rift or the Eveningstar Cavern.  I didn't know if that meant that people without the pack couldn't get there. 

Public instance areas shouldn't be part of P2P/Expansion content.  Just the adventure areas and quests.

Turbine does what it does to weed out the weak. They may act stupid and play stupid but they know what they doing. And all you weaker people are gone so those of us strong enough survive.

Merry Hobbit wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2013 at 2:39pm:


Of course it changed. It was supposed to come out with the first xpack. I hold no faith in when or if it's coming until I login and see it there.

Asheras wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2013 at 4:39pm:

Likewise, I make some observations + a few assumptions and then state my opinion (like it is fact ). 

You're right that shiradi nerf affected solo players disproportionately, but you're wrong to think that that's the only source of discontent.  I only really started farming gear after epic GH, but this game has been going downhill long before that.  It feels that every update has made this game worse by introducing bugs, introducing P2W or just fucking with game mechanics unnecessarily and devs showing that they plain don't care. 

Empirically, you just cannot say that DDO is doing well.  MMOdata shows a subscription peak in 2010, but unfortunately doesn't have data for 2013.  However, it's pretty obvious that population has been down since 2010 and U18 did next to nothing to get people interested again.  If hardcore players only make up 5% of the base as you say, then it isn't the hardcore players that are making DDO a wasteland, it's the so called casuals who are playing less and leaving for other games. 



P.S. mmosheet.net shows DDO population down about 40% since 2011 (LoB/MA).  Go figure.