Most of that stuff is redundant.  Character slots, tomes of learning, a bunch of cosmetic crap and companions?  I'll go with the basic pack.  The other pack just isn't worth the extra coin.  I go no problem spending money on the game since I enjoy it.  I'd drop $50 for new content and some cool stuff.  I'm disappointed the pack has so much fluff in it and very little of substance.

They really made it redundant with the MoTU pack in a lot of ways, though.  The Tomes of Learning were in that pack.  So I have all I need of those.  As a VIP (don't need character slots) and someone who doesn't like companions and cosmetics, there's just not much there. 

It's OK.  All I really wanted was the quest content anyways.  Some extra TP is cool.  I'm sure Otto's Boxes will make a return at some point.

It's kind of a stupid fucking name.  How does a plane conspire?

Eladiun wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 10:03am:


I think it's kind of obvious that the denizens of the Shadowfell are the ones conspiring.  It would be like saying Mars attacked Earth.  Well, of course it didn't (unless the planet spun out of orbit and slammed into the Earth).  The people of Mars attacked the people of Earth.  It's short form to identify a group of people by their place of residence.

It would be like saying Germany attacked France and France surrendered.  It is more accurate to say The Germans attacked the French and the French surrendered like little school girls.  Same basic concept.

The $40 add-on is hilarious. As if $50 for the "collector's edition" wasn't sad enough, you have to blow another $40 if you want an owlbear hireling.

I wonder when the epic tomes of learning and skill tomes will be in the store and at one TP prices. If they're buyable w/ TP's that makes the higher packs much less attractive.

cdr wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 10:45am:


Funny, since SWTOR's expansion cost subscribers $10 bucks and probably had more content in total.

Not even a little bit tempted.
Far too little, far too late - at least for me. And after the utter clusterfuck that was/is MotU... I won't drop a dime on a pack like this ever again.

I kinda think it's hilarious that they are finally adding in the heavily requested Wizard's Hat, and it looks much more akin to a Dunce Cap - also requested on occasion. If they added an orange-version it'd look like a traffic cone.


The only nice thing I can say is that the Owlbears look nice. The Art Department remains DDO's best asset.

cdr wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 10:45am:


It looks to me like the owlbear hireling comes with pre-order before August 13th and has no extra charge.  Did I miss something?

Schmoe wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 11:14am:


That's the creature companion. The hireling like the onyx panther is part of the $39.99 additional pack.

Darkrok wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 11:18am:


My personal opinion is that they expect and influx of new players that want to play the new content and they're wanting to get them right into that content. I'm fine with that goal though I'm not sure I like how they've implemented it. I don't mind the LR/TR restrictions now that I've read the dev diary and how TR and especially LR 'is a priority'.

Madcow430 wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 11:11am:


I fucking laughed at this.


Although a TR ran over the side in ADQ1 last night while trying to break an urn. So new players don't have a monopoly on spectacular. To his credit he didn't blame lag.