majmalphunktion wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 3:58pm:



How much would it cost for me to get you to punch jerry right in the dick?

rest wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 5:01pm:


Your post was epic.

He's not a dev.  Nobody thinks his word means shit.  He's utterly ineffective at his job.  Why is he even employed?

kavinsky wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 5:05pm:

I talked with the guys from the hangouts the other day, the thing is that they are all casual players, one told me that its posible to make a video with opinions about things like this from a more hardcore gamer perspective and they could include it in the hang out maybe even invite him to it.

Rincewind wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 5:18pm:


This is why the DDOVault needs a Podcast.

LOL LESLIEWEST.

rest wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 5:27pm:

???

rest wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 6:04pm:

Yeah, I just saw that a few mins ago. Hysterical!

I hope he reacts but I'm fairly certain he'll hit the "Piss And Moan" button instead and just report you.

majmalphunktion wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 3:58pm:


I don't think you understand just how much players despise the destiny grind you folks rolled out.  Players don't despise heroic leveling, however.  Heroic leveling doesn't force them to play as gimps through millions of XP.  When are you all going to realize that we don't like to be forced to grind up trash destinies that provide us with little or no benefit?  The system is abysmal and needs to change before you ever try to wipe our destinies clean.

I think what you originally thought (or wanted) was that players would level up a class, then level up the appropriate destiny for that class, and then immediately TR into a different class, level up, and then level up the appropriate destinies for that class, etc...   Or something like that.

That would have been a magnificently stupid thing to want players to do, of course.  We don't like playing just one toon, you know.  And you can't expect most of your players to ever want to be completionists.  We like to have a lot of different toons, all of which can be good without turning them all into darn completionists.

Why don't you instead do something like base the maximum number of destinies you can have off the number of lives a toon has?  Say that you can "hold" four destinies per life.  This will force toons to go to Legend status before they can unlock all the destinies (it forces an additional grind, and it's a grind people don't HATE). 

(This change could even be retroactive.  If you have all destinies unlocked, but not the requisite number of past lives to hold them, you get to select which wants you want to activate, and then you have to go TR to unlock another four.)

Then, and in addition to the above (and this is mandatory), ease the pain of leveling in off destinies somehow. 

Here's a proposal as to how to do that.  Give us another set of "twists" (but more of them), and base the number of these "twists" off the number of lives a toon has.  These new "twists" (call them "shwists" if you like) will have one purpose, and they are totally distinct from current twists. They will let you slot ED abilities for use WHILE leveling in an off destiny. 

So for example, if I have three past lives, for four lives total, let's say I get access to five "shwists". 

Now let's suppose I'm a melee who has capped Legendary Dreadnaught, but has no ranks in Magister.  I want Magister, but it royally sucks to level it.  While I'm leveling Magister, I can shwist anything I want from Legendary Dreadnaught up through tier 5 at any time.*

This means that as a Magister, and given my number of past lives, I can slot five Dreadnaught abilities to assist with the pain in my melee's ass that is leveling Magister.

If you did all this, and THEN compensated us for our epic XP in something like the manner you suggested, I could see you being able to start pulling off destiny wipes with EPIC TR's---*not* Heroic TR's, don't go there!

*If you don't like me being able to do it "at any time", make it so that I can "shwist" a Tier X ability from Dreadnaught at Magister Tier + 2.  Effectively, once I have unlocked Tier III Magister abilities, I could "shwist" the Tier V Devastating Critical from Dreadnaught.

Could someone shoot postumus for me, he's such a fucking cunt...... not to insult all the cunts out there.

majmalphunktion wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 3:58pm:


I'm afraid you must be in the dark too then.  We were told in the forums that it was for Update 20 and that it would release THIS YEAR.  So we are looking at 3-6 months, which is I wouldn't think is very long if a major change of approach is indicated.

Silky wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 8:04pm:


We need to get on him here for the proper anal-rapage he deserves.

Maj: The problem is not with whatever new system you come up with (or at least, not the big problem). The big problem is that you have tons of players with tons of characters with tons of capped or near capped EDs. If your new system involves ED xp loss in any way, this mountain of existing xp needs to grandfathered in somehow. You cannot just wipe out that much playtime, most of it soulless grinding.

If you just announced that any capped EDs as of the time this change goes live would become locked in, you would eliminate 99% of the rage.

GreyMouser wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 11:25pm:


Amen