Bigjunk wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 1:34pm:


Ok.

I shall edit my posts accordingly.

I apologise to any females out there.
And I apologise to any misogynists out there... for backing down.

Some things are more important.

GreyMouser wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 11:25pm:


Holy shit man...it's a shame that we don't get to vote for the executive producer. You seem like one of the only people left there that 'gets it'. Only downside to your idea - it takes more effort to create compelling content than to just create systems that screw over your players and create more grind.

Mokune wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 5:01am:


Pretty sure they're rock-solid on that with the EULA. That said, I think twitter/facebook (especially twitter where Turbine has no say over what you post) as well as publicizing the change to the various gaming news sites would have a fairly strong effect. I'm holding off on anything drastic like that until the team has a week or so to find their ass with both hands and fix this...unfortunately we can't put Maj in charge put maybe we can send him in with an assmap for the team and they'll figure it out from there.

The only decent content since MOTU was Epic Gianthold, and I don't give them much credit for that since it was retooling existing already well done content.

Druid's Deep was a travesty but largely forgiven because of the MOTU crunch.

High Road was 2/5 decent quests (castle, inn) and 3/5 terrible quests (swamp, detour, end of the road) with an overcompressed slayer area (rare encounters every five feet) and more Druid Deep style terrible reskinned/reused monsters. And laughably overpriced.

U18 was two quests, both of which had the most terrible design since... anything. Comparing U18 to U13 just makes you cringe.

Does anyone besides Maj at Turbine actually care about producing quality content anymore? The vast majority of it since MOTU has just been shoveled out to keep some cash flowing in.

Moar Content is what we need. 

Oh and dead hobbits

I love Rainbow. I don't love running it with kmack and Maxwell.

maj if you can force the dev team to make real content and give us an epic expansion with a 20-30 quest saga with several raids and some interesting challenges with good rewards I am sure many people who haven't paid for ddo in a while would pay for it.

Especially if you made at least 1 out of every 5 quests the rainbow(this one is kinda iffy)/pit/crucible type of generally harder quests (not saying they are necessarily hard, just that people aren't generally getting these quests on the first try, maybe excluding rainbow).

Having an epic saga with an amazing story with several raids that all have worthy end game loot (maybe make one raid for armour/helms, one for weapons/shields/orbs/runearms, one for accessories (i.e., rings necklaces bracers trinkets etc.), and one for clothing items (boots gloves cloak belt)).

This would be amazing for the game, and would keep many players interested for a while, especially if you included a few quests like gianthold tor that have dragon scales (worth selling AND for making/upgrading armour), plenty of good loot that people hunt down, and interesting/potentially challenging boss fights.

that is all.

(granted this isn't very realistic, just my own personal wish.)

I find it hilarious that the devs shoveling the Epic TR system at the players haven't actually done a third life TR, or grinded out a bunch of epic destinies.  If they had, they would have realized just how moronic the current proposal is.

I mentioned this in another thread, but I'll mention it here as well since that other thread is full of poop and unlikely to be read seriously.

If Turbine wants to make TR more attractive, flattening out the XP curve will be a big part of that.  If you're going to keep the same 4-ish million XP for 20 on a 3rd life, then just multiply every level by 2.3 (I think that was the number I recall) instead of putting all of the heavy lifting at level 16+.  It's levels 17, 18, and 19 that make TRing so very unappealing to many people.

The TR hamster wheel would be a lot more palatable if you didn't spend so much of it banging your head against level 18.

kierg10 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2013 at 2:31pm:


He can't force them to do shit. If he could, we wouldn't be in this position. Right now, the only thing we can do is hope that the overwhelmingly negative feedback causes them to U-turn.

Carpone wrote on Jun 16^th, 2013 at 3:55pm:

Why do that when the Devs have their own "Guide" equivalent?

kierg10 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2013 at 2:31pm:


Oh yeah, this, this, this and more.

Carpone wrote on Jun 16^th, 2013 at 3:55pm:


With the NGE... Enhancement Crash and the TR Change, I am no absolutely certain that none of the developer or assimilated ( Glin, Piloto, Cordovan, ... ) play the game with god mode off.
I still think the QA Kobolds ( MajMal, Kookie, Squeak ) uses mainly God Mode to get them where they can turn it of to test things, but they are probably the only ones that remember how to turn it off.

AtomicMew wrote on Jun 17^th, 2013 at 4:40am:


True if people weren't retarded about it and assholes, you can level multi-TR character to 20. without redoing quests more than once, while doing them, at level and on normal. but they want their retarded streak and the XP pots, so they do them on L33t and whine.
( ok, I'm honest there's not that much XP to be found at 18 and 19, but there's still enough to level a First life or a First TR to 20 without redoing quests.

AtomicMew wrote on Jun 17^th, 2013 at 4:40am:


FIFY, even if it doesn't change the fact that End-Game right now is worse than End-Game then, TR was mainly a mechanism to get people that invested lots of hours in their characters to keep playing them while exploring other classes... It was a stop gap to keep players busy and interested, and honestly, nobody in his/her right mind when TR was introduced thought that Completionist was going to be so widespread. ( I remember the guild when we first saw it : everybody was What the Fuck ? They really think somebody will ever reach that number of TR some day ? )