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notajedi Stormreaver Piker Offline What idiot puts personal information here? Gunga Posts: 528 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	DDO Oracle has updated Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:22am	Print Post
	http://www.ddoracle.com/Traffic.html Quarterly, the logins are down 5,000 per server, 17500 to 12500.� Except for Wayfinder, it has stayed the same. Then there is the Menace of the Underdark Chart. http://www.ddoracle.com/images/MotU_one_year_later.jpg Interesting tidbits. With the 10% XP boost to Wayfinder until the end of the year, this looks like a desperation move to get traffic up on Wayfinder. I wonder what the verdict is on January 1, 2014 when the numbers have not changed. If numbers from other servers drop and wayfinder goes up, then that is just robbing peter to pay paul.
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NOTpopejubal Epic Poster Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 4096 Location: Let go or get dragged. Joined: Apr 17^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #1 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 10:44am	Print Post
	I wonder how "server logins per hour" is affected by the fact that DDO crashes significantly more often for me than it used to. I don't play often (I hopped on for two hours last night for the first time in about a month) and I don't know if that's different for me than it is for most other people. It does seem more crashy to me than it was last year.


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OnePercenter Advocatus Diaboli Offline Ants Eat Dead Grasshoppers Posts: 9985 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #2 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 10:47am	Print Post
	NOTpopejubal wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 10:44am: I wonder how "server logins per hour" is affected by the fact that DDO crashes significantly more often for me than it used to.� I don't play often (I hopped on for two hours last night for the first time in about a month) and I don't know if that's different for me than it is for most other people.� It does seem more crashy to me than it was last year. I log in at least twice a day, every day, and never crash. Rare lag. It is all in karatekid's head... Muhaha...

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Bill Z Bubb Boobies Controller Offline I only know three chords! Posts: 1238 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2012	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #3 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 10:53am	Print Post
	NOTpopejubal wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 10:44am: It does seem more crashy to me than it was last year. That's because more people are signing on.� [/end Chai mode]

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Luxgolg Shroud Slacker Offline So many bugs Posts: 1221 Location: Over there Joined: Oct 2^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #4 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 11:10am	Print Post
	Bill Z Bubb wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 10:53am: That's because more people are signing on.� [/end Chai mode] Signing into other games...

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umeannothing Stormreaver Piker Offline Wall building professional! Posts: 538 Location: your head Joined: Dec 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #5 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 11:16am	Print Post
	NOTpopejubal wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 10:44am: I wonder how "server logins per hour" is affected by the fact that DDO crashes significantly more often for me than it used to.� I don't play often (I hopped on for two hours last night for the first time in about a month) and I don't know if that's different for me than it is for most other people.� It does seem more crashy to me than it was last year. Same thing and same play style these days. Just not worth the effort to keep logging in. by far more crashy for me since the forum change. At first it felt like they fixed things and then a few days later crashy as fuck.

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Asketes Puppy Farmer Offline Perma Posts: 1371 Location: California Joined: Aug 16^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #6 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 1:21pm	Print Post
	Just close half or more of the servers ffs


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9984 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #7 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	Asketes wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 1:21pm: Just close half or more of the servers ffs The server software can't handle the load.... I

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scraap Ex Member	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #8 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 1:35pm	Print Post
	notajedi wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:22am: http://www.ddoracle.com/Traffic.html Quarterly, the logins are down 5,000 per server, 17500 to 12500.� Except for Wayfinder, it has stayed the same. Then there is the Menace of the Underdark Chart. http://www.ddoracle.com/images/MotU_one_year_later.jpg Interesting tidbits. With the 10% XP boost to Wayfinder until the end of the year, this looks like a desperation move to get traffic up on Wayfinder.� �I wonder what the verdict is on January 1, 2014 when the numbers have not changed.� If numbers from other servers drop and wayfinder goes up, then that is just robbing peter to pay paul. Dramatic, but would hold more weight if the MOTU one went back a year prior, so folks could see if it was more than a temp-spike we were coming down from.


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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #9 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 2:59pm	Print Post
	You can kind of get an idea of how things trended by using the wayback machine. It's massive, about a 40% drop in 2 years time. MOTU was really just a blip in the long term trend. Oracle is probably the most accurate source we will ever get on server statistics. Also: Least Popular Combos Build: Mnk/Brd/Fig # of Chars: 1 >.>


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NOTpopejubal Epic Poster Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 4096 Location: Let go or get dragged. Joined: Apr 17^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #10 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 3:24pm	Print Post
	I wonder if there are any Mnk/Brb combos left from the two months or so that they were possible.


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Slug Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1061 Joined: Feb 19^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #11 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 6:29pm	Print Post
	NOTpopejubal wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 3:24pm: I wonder if there are any Mnk/Brb combos left from the two months or so that they were possible. I see a brb/mnk/drd, a brb/mnk/ran, and a pal/brd/ran on the same list.


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The Oracle Korthos Resident Offline I See Dead People Posts: 71 Location: Thelanis Joined: Jan 22^nd, 2013	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #12 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:32pm	Print Post
	Quote: Dramatic, but would hold more weight if the MOTU one went back a year prior, so folks could see if it was more than a temp-spike we were coming down from. You've been heard! The MotU report includes a stub of the traffic before it hit.� In general, the previous year resembles the MotU year, so imagine that as the 'tail of the previous year.'� �Though from a glance, the previous year appears to be about 15% higher across the board.


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HairyO Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 355 Joined: Jun 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #13 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 8:48pm	Print Post
	How up-to-date are the guild renown stats? My guild's average renown per character should easily have it in the top 10. I suspect it is the total number of toons in the guild. We have about half the number which is being reported.


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The Oracle Korthos Resident Offline I See Dead People Posts: 71 Location: Thelanis Joined: Jan 22^nd, 2013	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #14 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 10:13pm	Print Post
	HairyO wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 8:48pm: How up-to-date are the guild renown stats? Unfortunately, the guild renown stats are frozen in time for the foreseeable future, as they were lost with the MyDDO and forum changes.� The existing reports will be left up with a note explaining the situation, (which should have already been up, but been busy with new stuff,) but new rankings cannot be calculated. While the fix should be trivial and there is a great deal of demand, the fix would be on Turbine's side and suffice to say they already have their hands busy with other things.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #15 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 11:27pm	Print Post
	notajedi wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:22am: http://www.ddoracle.com/Traffic.html Quarterly, the logins are down 5,000 per server, 17500 to 12500.� . Where are you seeing 17500 to 12500? The charts I see at ddo oracle seem to go from 17500 at the top 3 months ago to 15000 at the top today. The bottom is at 12500. Still a drop of 2500, but a 14% decline is a lot different than a 30% decline. NWO is surely a big part of that drop.


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Silky Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1267 Joined: Dec 7^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #16 - Jul 5^th, 2013 at 1:03pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 11:27pm: Where are you seeing 17500 to 12500?� The charts I see at ddo oracle seem to go from 17500 at the top 3 months ago to 15000 at the top today.� The bottom is at 12500.� Still a drop of 2500, but a 14% decline is a lot different than a 30% decline.� NWO is surely a big part of that drop. Neverwinter sucks donkey dink once you have been through the content on one or two characters, it has no staying power. It's the type of game that you don't really want to spend money on and just run through the new content every now and then when some is added that is. Also consider you have more new games on the horizon like archeage, ESO, wildstar FFxivARR, eqnext etc


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #17 - Jul 5^th, 2013 at 1:39pm	Print Post
	Silky wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 1:03pm: Neverwinter sucks donkey dink once you have been through the content on one or two characters, it has no staying power. It's the type of game that you don't really want to spend money on and just run through the new content every now and then when some is added that is. Also consider you have more new games on the horizon like archeage, ESO, wildstar FFxivARR, eqnext etc Archeage? Wildstar? Come on. Neither of those is a legit threat. EQNext? That's not going to be seen for 24 months. ESO, coming in about 9 months, is the only one of that list that would even be worth discussing. I agree with you that NWO isn't good enough to hold attention long term. I got bored with it after a month. But everybody was trying it out in open Beta. Which was right in the middle to end of the quarter in question. As a D&D based MMO, it was the most direct hit to the fan base.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #18 - Jul 5^th, 2013 at 1:42pm	Print Post
	In fact, in looking at the numbers, they don't really slide that much through early June. The majority of the decline comes from the 1st of June to the end of June. I'd attribute it to NWO open beta, the enhancement Alpha terror, and the Shadowfell pre-order being underwhelming.


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Luxgolg Shroud Slacker Offline So many bugs Posts: 1221 Location: Over there Joined: Oct 2^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #19 - Jul 5^th, 2013 at 1:56pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 1:42pm: In fact, in looking at the numbers, they don't really slide that much through early June.� The majority of the decline comes from the 1st of June to the end of June.� I'd attribute it to NWO open beta, the enhancement Alpha terror, and the Shadowfell pre-order being underwhelming.� School/exams too. More time studying, summer activities and the above reasons

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Silky Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1267 Joined: Dec 7^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #20 - Jul 5^th, 2013 at 2:48pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 1:39pm: Archeage?� Wildstar?� Come on.� Neither of those is a legit threat.� EQNext?� That's not going to be seen for 24 months.� ESO, coming in about 9 months, is the only one of that list that would even be worth discussing. I agree with you that NWO isn't good enough to hold attention long term.� I got bored with it after a month.� But everybody was trying it out in open Beta.� Which was right in the middle to end of the quarter in question.� As a D&D based MMO, it was the most direct hit to the fan base.� You misunderstand my post. You are implying the drop is due to Neverwinter which I think is oversimplifying the situation.� Neverwinter isn't very DnD in my book other than the lore. Sure some few stopped playing ddo for nevertwinter but then I think many of those that did were quickly disappointed in what neverwinter offers. Add that many peeps that have been playing long term will stop awhile to try out new games and then come back. All those games I posted will cause the same thing to happen in that some will stop playing ddo, play those new games, get bored and come back. This isn't a new phenomenon only that there are quite few new ones coming out "soonish" and that will keep the game hopping players busy that much longer. What is new is this suck arse enhancement pass though and what is likely to happen is many may dislike it more than they dislike those other games. What happens then? I am not saying Doo000oom the game will fail but will it lose a bigger than "usual" amount of player to new games? I think that is very likely.
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notajedi Stormreaver Piker Offline What idiot puts personal information here? Gunga Posts: 528 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	I will play your game Asheras Reply #21 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 8:12am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 11:27pm: Where are you seeing 17500 to 12500?� The charts I see at ddo oracle seem to go from 17500 at the top 3 months ago to 15000 at the top today.� The bottom is at 12500.� Still a drop of 2500, but a 14% decline is a lot different than a 30% decline.� NWO is surely a big part of that drop. What was the QTRLY chart number on April 7?� 17,500 What was the QTRLY chart number on July 2? 12,500 I took the Peak beginning QTRLY number and went to the QTRLY end trough number. Compare peak to peak, you can go 17,500 to 15,000 Compare trough to trough, you can go 15,000 to 12,500 Use whatever numbers you want to use Asheras.� I chose to use PEAK 17,500 on April 7 to most recent trough on July 2, which is 12,500 for my own nefarious purposes.� Just as you chose to say 17500 to 15000 for your own nefarious purposes. I don't even get your queston now because you specifically say the TOP 17,500 and the bottom 12,500 in your post. You clearly ANSWERED where the numbers came from.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: I will play your game Asheras Reply #22 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 12:01pm	Print Post
	notajedi wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 8:12am: What was the QTRLY chart number on April 7?� 17,500 What was the QTRLY chart number on July 2? 12,500 I took the Peak beginning QTRLY number and went to the QTRLY end trough number. Compare peak to peak, you can go 17,500 to 15,000 Compare trough to trough, you can go 15,000 to 12,500 Use whatever numbers you want to use Asheras.� I chose to use PEAK 17,500 on April 7 to most recent trough on July 2, which is 12,500 for my own nefarious purposes.� Just as you chose to say 17500 to 15000 for your own nefarious purposes. I don't even get your queston now because you specifically say the TOP 17,500 and the bottom 12,500 in your post.� You clearly ANSWERED where the numbers came from. Comparing Peak on April 7th to Trough on July 2nd is poor analysis. You are comparing an apple and an orange. Comparing peak April 7th to Peak July 2nd and Trough April 7th to Trough July 2nd is proper analysis. This is apples to apples. Your purposes may have been nefarioius. Mine were just trying to compare the same data points to get a more accurate picture of the decline. A better statistical comparison would come from analyzing the mean, median, and standard deviation. Tracking those over time would give a better gauge of the decline. That data's not available to us, however, so going with the peak-to-peak and trough-to-trough decline is all we have available. Regardless of which analysis we use, activity level in DDO has been dropping at a steady rate.


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TheFifthSock Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 265 Location: The Rusty Nail Joined: Sep 7^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: I will play your game Asheras Reply #23 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:04pm	Print Post
	notajedi wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 8:12am: What was the QTRLY chart number on April 7?� 17,500 What was the QTRLY chart number on July 2? 12,500 I took the Peak beginning QTRLY number and went to the QTRLY end trough number. Compare peak to peak, you can go 17,500 to 15,000 Compare trough to trough, you can go 15,000 to 12,500 Use whatever numbers you want to use Asheras.� I chose to use PEAK 17,500 on April 7 to most recent trough on July 2, which is 12,500 for my own nefarious purposes.� Just as you chose to say 17500 to 15000 for your own nefarious purposes. I don't even get your queston now because you specifically say the TOP 17,500 and the bottom 12,500 in your post.� You clearly ANSWERED where the numbers came from. Where did you learn math? From Shade? :p


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higgildypiggildy Stormreaver Piker Offline I just mock the world Posts: 660 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2011	Re: DDO Oracle has updated Reply #24 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 8:36am	Print Post
	Maths is hard!

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