Flint wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

FranOhmsford's and Snootch's gay baby would probably beat every EH quest on con dumped dex rogue with those stupid  heroic green poison daggers.
Discussing builds or balance for EH is retarded.

Flint wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:


Not saying that and honestly I’m not trying to be hostile. 

But if you don’t play EEs as your “thing” you will not understand how feather_of_sun'ed many styles get in end-game and that our original point of melees dominating is the truth.

Flint wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:


1.       Yes.  G-land LFMs for EE are up all the time.  Not as often as I like, but as and example I pugged the whole EE Highroad chain and EE TOR last night.  Just be ready to BYO heals, nobody waits for healers anymore.
2.      No idea, I only use my channel. 
3.      
It’s not the responsibility of other people to get you ready for EEs.  And since the loot on EE is the only thing worth pursuing I don’t run any 6-man quests in non-EE unless I’m looking for fast XP or helping friends (not strangers) who aren’t ready for EE yet.  Besides, running EH does NOTHING to prepare you for EE anyway.


Flint wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:


WTF do you want me to say?  Move to a different server.


Flint wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:


Not all EEs are created equal. 

The VONs/FENs and the King’s Forest chains are significantly easier than the level 24 EEs.  Start with those and work your way up.  EH will do nothing to get you prepared, they exist for people to get XP in off-destinies and that’s about it.

Flint wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:


You are entitled to your opinion, but in the specific case of spellpower, the important part is being able to meet Epic Elite content difficulties.

If you don't intend to run at this difficulty level your statement is true : you don't need that last bit of spellpower.
Flint wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:


Absolutely not... in My Guild on G-land we have people like me that can cope with EE ( badly ) from time to time ( with a careful selection of the quest ), we have casual players that have absolutely no intention of even coming near Epic Hard difficulty, we have extreme TR-ers that consider Epic Elite as the normal difficulty...
( hell, I'm part of a 7 year old static group... Our characters are 28 fucking pointers, they are gimps you wouldn't want [ less than 200HP for the wizard at LVL 19 ], I'm never going to consider anything other than normal with that character, and I'm having a blast playing her... but I'm also having fun playing Epic Elite Raids )

Flint wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:


1) rarely
2) Yes.

Point of fact : The channels I'm in are the Channels created when the Former Europeans were dumped on G-Land... European Community was really close knit, everybody on a server knowing everybody else and so on, they know what to expect out of me, and I know what to expect out of them. It clears quite a few potential problems... ( for example they won't ask me to run an EE CiTW, they know I'd be useless and I would spend my time whining )

Bigjunk wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 1:32pm:

It's not my thing to not play EE. I'd love to do it.

Bigjunk wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 1:32pm:


Bigjunk wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 1:32pm:

You want to pay to move 3 accounts full of characters to another server... I don't thinks so. Not an option.

Bigjunk wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 1:32pm:

I've done EE Fens/VoN/Sentinels. Nothing there I want really other than an eSoS for my barb and you know what my chances of getting that are. When people say EE now I think GH and Eveningstar.

Bigjunk wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 2:04pm:


Sadly, only a few are beneficial to players, and they are hotfixed as soon as they are discovered.

The detrimental ones take months to fix...if we're lucky. A lot of them don't get fixed at all.

EE Loot  =  Free Turbine points and expansion codes.

And honestly after a while it's the only difficulty that's any fun.

Flint wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:


What we are saying is they are dumbing down the game for people that can't be bothered to learn the mechanics or for people that feel it's too hard to figure out what to do with their AP each level, as another poster here so eloquently pointed out lol.

The state of khybers EE lfm or lack thereof doesn't really have anything to do with the enhancements.

Do you seriously think this will make people run shit more on EE in the lfm lmao?

Hordo wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 6:49pm:


They are dead set on adding the Skills to affect spell power or else why the hell would they have not scrapped it yet. So we will have to adapt to it. Whining again is just beating a dead horse by now.

Silky wrote on Jul 9^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:


Reading fail on your part. The EE comments were made because some people thing only those who run EE consistently are allowed a valid opinion. Fuck that shit I pay for 3 VIP accounts I have the right to speak my mind also.

Ok since I was said to be of a invalid opinion I went back and rethought this system a bit last night instead of playing.

I'd probably tweak the system with skill points affecting spell power but I would not say it's stupid. If they made it so a reasonable amount of the skill evened out for the loss of gaining spell power via AP (that is being caused by the enhancement pass) would you all admit it's a good option? Not sure yet where that sweet spot of skill should fall. But there should be a penalty in this for dump stating a primary or secondary stat for the appropriate class. I'm looking at dumping Wisdom here mainly on those who want to make a self healing Ranger or Paladin. You get your spell points from wisdom so I'd say if you want a viable self healing build along with being able to buff yourself and maybe some party members, you really shouldn't be dumping wisdom or you would have to fight to get a decent spell point pool anyway.

You can slot items to boost the skill even further. I see this as giving us more options as long as the skill point bonus stacks with items with spell power items and spell power enhancements (where available). And yes if they see that the results of the removal of some enhancements affected game play too much they can add some back in at a later date since from what they are saying the system is flexible enough to do it.

Flint wrote on Jul 10^th, 2013 at 9:35am:



Valid or not, your opinion is retarded.

Seriously, stop posting.  You look dumber with each key-stroke.

Bigjunk wrote on Jul 10^th, 2013 at 10:22am:


Seriously you can't see where if they find a skill score where the normal build say 12 or 14 base + an stat item would bonus to casting the AP you would have spent prior to the enhancement pass it's not a fucking loss it's a win? If you can't then your the one who is retarded. Hell that idea even scales with level like the old AP system did.

Bigjunk wrote on Jul 10^th, 2013 at 10:23am:


Let's be honest.  It doesn't really matter in EE, either.  A decent 6 man group can complete EE content without having to do any serious meta-gaming or having min-maxed toons.  The only place this kind of stuff really matters(and by matters I mean has an impact on the likelyhood of a completion or a measurable impact on the time to complete or resources used to complete) is in soloing EE content, soloing raids, or doing other "outside the box" kind of things. 

I run EE's on my Wiz and FvS.  Sure you have to change strategies slightly, but it's not that hard.  I don't see anything in this enhancement pass that would make me afraid to run EE content.