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Re: Closed Beta/Enhancements Update
Reply #25 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 7:00pm
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kierg10 wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 6:08pm:
Oh warpriest tree makes me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside :3


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Re: Closed Beta/Enhancements Update
Reply #26 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 7:08pm
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Something along the lines of divine might same as paladin tier 2, class toughness enhancements, improved to hit, doublestrike, damage and critical damage on the deity specific weapon, holy damage and SLAs for Divine Power etc would be a nice start. Turn based damage boost and some PRR capability wouldn't be out of place.

  
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Reply #27 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 7:18pm
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What drugs are you on to accomplish this?  and where can I get some of them?


this is gonna shock you even more: I'm still a VIP and I preordered the collectors ed shadowfell conspiracy.....and I'm not on drugs Cheesy

I'm not a fanboi by any means, and I insult turdbine often.....but DDO is still fun for me, so I keep playing Smiley
  
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Reply #28 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 7:19pm
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NOTdarth wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 7:00pm:
Afraid to tell you but that's just Turbine's penis balls deep in your arse.


thank you for informing me that turbine's "penis balls" are deep in my anus.

I shall store this information for future utilization.
  
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Reply #29 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 7:29pm
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kierg10 wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 6:50pm:
lol I've been playing for 4 years.....I just try to be more optimistic Tongue it makes everything better Cheesy


Well you're like 15 aren't you?  So you're still young enough to have some hope.
  
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Reply #30 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 7:43pm
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rest wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 7:29pm:
Well you're like 15 aren't you?  So you're still young enough to have some hope.


I'm 16, and I have no idea how you know that, but I'm not scared nor ashamed of my age lol (and yeah I realize my younger age would help with my being optimistic since I'm not as jaded by the "adult" world)
  
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Reply #31 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 7:44pm
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You posted about it at some point.
  
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Reply #32 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 7:46pm
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rest wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 7:44pm:
You posted about it at some point.


hmm probably.

I hope I didn't post a thread specifically to say "hey I'm a minor!" cause that would be pretty dumb Cheesy
  
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Re: Closed Beta/Enhancements Update
Reply #33 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 11:01pm
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kierg10 wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 6:50pm:
I just try to be more optimistic it makes everything better



Wrong, only bacon makes everything better.
  
            
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Reply #34 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 11:26pm
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I'll reserve judgement on Warpriest until we actually see it - Burst and Aura are going to be pretty hard to pass up, assuming we can't have them and have most of the Warpriest goodies at the same time, whatever they happen to be...
  
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Reply #35 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 4:33am
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pnellesen wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 11:26pm:
I'll reserve judgement on Warpriest until we actually see it - Burst and Aura are going to be pretty hard to pass up, assuming we can't have them and have most of the Warpriest goodies at the same time, whatever they happen to be...


Initially, I'm sure you WILL be able to have most of the Warpriest goodies and the RS aura stuff at the same time.  It'll be an easy way to make everyone shut up about the flaws in the basic design of the pass...  It'll be a patch or two after that, when the forum whining has shifted from "Clerics are getting the shaft" to "Clerics are too OP and won't hjeal meh" that they re-jig the enhancements so you either have to be a melee gimp or a good little hjealbot again.
  
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wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Reply #36 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 10:04am
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pnellesen wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 11:26pm:
I'll reserve judgement on Warpriest until we actually see it - Burst and Aura are going to be pretty hard to pass up, assuming we can't have them and have most of the Warpriest goodies at the same time, whatever they happen to be...


what are the rules on multiple trees from the same class?  no go?  30AP out of radiant servant tree is all you need for both burst and aura...leaves 40 for warpriest (if double treeing is possible) and 10 for race.  it all depends on how nice the warpriest capstone is i guess Wink
  
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Re: Closed Beta/Enhancements Update
Reply #37 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 10:31am
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Persiflage wrote on Jul 10th, 2013 at 4:33am:
Initially, I'm sure you WILL be able to have most of the Warpriest goodies and the RS aura stuff at the same time.  It'll be an easy way to make everyone shut up about the flaws in the basic design of the pass...  It'll be a patch or two after that, when the forum whining has shifted from "Clerics are getting the shaft" to "Clerics are too OP and won't hjeal meh" that they re-jig the enhancements so you either have to be a melee gimp or a good little hjealbot again.


Why would any cleric or FvS even have to take enhancements to be a decent healer?  A healer with a +120 devotion item, full ranks of healing lines, a universal SP item, and an artifact bonus is overhealing 80% of the time.  Most of your bonuses come from items anyways, not enhancements.  There's very little you need from class enhancements to help with healing. 

It's no choice.  If there is a tree that does offensive casting or melee, all the AP goes there.  Spending AP on healing boosts is pointless.  Healing crits is a classic example.  Who relies on healing crits?  When a non-crit heal on a non-healing amp toon (maybe a 30% item and a boat buff 5%) is healing for the full amout of their HP, what's the point?  Do I need to double their HP on my heal?

Building for healing is building for gimp.  Healing is easy and requires little more than paying attention.
  
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Re: Closed Beta/Enhancements Update
Reply #38 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 11:54am
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Well lets hope we will get some insiders from the Vault who would post periodically about how Turbine Fuck things up ;p
  
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Reply #39 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 2:21pm
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kierg10 wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 7:43pm:
I'm 16, and I have no idea how you know that, but I'm not scared nor ashamed of my age lol (and yeah I realize my younger age would help with my being optimistic since I'm not as jaded by the "adult" world)


I'm more than double your age and I'm still VIP and bought the Shadowfell dealio too.
I'm not optimistic, in fact I've hardly played any DDO in the last month and a half, but I have more money than brains.

And yes, I have hardly any money too.
  
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Reply #40 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 2:38pm
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hgm-chi wrote on Jul 10th, 2013 at 2:21pm:
I'm more than double your age and I'm still VIP and bought the Shadowfell dealio too.
I'm not optimistic, in fact I've hardly played any DDO in the last month and a half, but I have more money than brains.

And yes, I have hardly any money too.


ok I'll be honest, I probably also bought the preorder of shadowfell cause I don't have much else to spend money on....but shhhhh! Wink
  
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Reply #41 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 3:55pm
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painkiller wrote on Jul 10th, 2013 at 10:04am:
what are the rules on multiple trees from the same class?  no go?  30AP out of radiant servant tree is all you need for both burst and aura...leaves 40 for warpriest (if double treeing is possible) and 10 for race.  it all depends on how nice the warpriest capstone is i guess Wink


You can have every tree from your class if you're pure since you can have up to 6 total trees. You can spend as many points in your class trees as you want but you can only take the highest tier abilities in a single tree (taking T5 stuff in one tree locks out the T5 abilities in all other trees).
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Reply #42 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 5:00pm
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Asheras wrote on Jul 10th, 2013 at 10:31am:
Why would any cleric or FvS even have to take enhancements to be a decent healer?  A healer with a +120 devotion item, full ranks of healing lines, a universal SP item, and an artifact bonus is overhealing 80% of the time.  Most of your bonuses come from items anyways, not enhancements.  There's very little you need from class enhancements to help with healing. 

It's no choice.  If there is a tree that does offensive casting or melee, all the AP goes there.  Spending AP on healing boosts is pointless.  Healing crits is a classic example.  Who relies on healing crits?  When a non-crit heal on a non-healing amp toon (maybe a 30% item and a boat buff 5%) is healing for the full amout of their HP, what's the point?  Do I need to double their HP on my heal?

Building for healing is building for gimp.  Healing is easy and requires little more than paying attention. 


Yeah, currently I only take those healing enhancements that are necessary to allow me to get Burst and Aura. Once that's covered, all other AP goes either into casting or melee, depending on what my offensive focus is.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the Warpriest tree looks like on Lamma - if I can make a Pure Cleric (helf or otherwise) with melee almost as good as my fighter splashed clerics, while still keeping Burst/Aura, I'll be happy(ish) with it.
  
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Reply #43 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 5:41pm
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Warpriest/Haste is a step in the right direction, but it's a distraction.  Divine DC casting needs to be addressed not ignored.
  
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Carpone wrote on Jul 10th, 2013 at 5:41pm:
Warpriest/Haste is a step in the right direction, but it's a distraction.  Divine DC casting needs to be addressed not ignored.


Saves need to be nerfed, that's what needs to be addressed.

Getting more DCs from heroic enhancement is just stupid . . . like PMs need any more power between levels 18-22.
  
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Reply #45 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 7:59pm
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kierg10 wrote on Jul 10th, 2013 at 2:38pm:
ok I'll be honest, I probably also bought the preorder of shadowfell cause I don't have much else to spend money on....but shhhhh! Wink


I am counting on you kids for the closed Lama reviews, just saying Smiley
  
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Reply #46 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 8:11pm
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Terebinthia wrote on Jul 10th, 2013 at 7:59pm:
I am counting on you kids for the closed Lama reviews, just saying Smiley


well now I won't post on the forum about it Smiley
  
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Reply #47 - Jul 11th, 2013 at 7:21am
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Bigjunk wrote on Jul 10th, 2013 at 5:51pm:
Saves need to be nerfed, that's what needs to be addressed.

Manage the outcome not the process.
  
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Reply #48 - Jul 11th, 2013 at 10:32am
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Carpone wrote on Jul 11th, 2013 at 7:21am:
Manage the outcome not the process.

And focusing on the outcome will make it easier to swallow DC casting inevitably being driven down the same road as to-hit.
  
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Reply #49 - Jul 11th, 2013 at 10:47am
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Carpone wrote on Jul 11th, 2013 at 7:21am:
Manage the outcome not the process.


More power-creep = bad.

If the saves are too high you fix it by lowering the save.
  
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