mystafyi wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:


It is to get the population playing together.  7/15/20 are the touchpoints in player concentrations.

GreyMouser wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 10:14pm:



You really think this will work?

GreyMouser wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 10:13pm:


Where's the non random powered reliable named raid loot ?
That's the only reason to try to grind raids.

If the random lootgen is better than the named loot you fail at attracting and keeping players at 'end game. If the named raid loot has random power you fail at attracting and keeping players at end game, as the random lootgen will be better.

Carpone wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 8:16am:


Ed will have 'last say' in anything with his name on it.  He generally adds a Right of Refusal clause, so if Turdbine screws something up, he could make them fix it.

Sadly, even Greenwood couldn't save DDO at this point.

GreyMouser wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 10:13pm:

You say this, but there's no new raid.  There aren't even Tier 3 upgrades for Fall of Truth, similar to what was done in U16 for CitW.  There's no point in raising the level cap if there's no new raid.  Characters don't need to be level 28 in order to run Fall of Truth.

Being 28 is a negative, if anything... 25s can run level even 19 quests with only a 10% overlevel penalty, they can join just about any group that's doing higher level quests. 26+, and 28 especially, is going to be more restricted in what groups are available. It fragments the steadily declining playbase even more, and you get almost no benefit for it.

GreyMouser wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 10:14pm:


It. Won't.  Work.

Bravery Bonus has seen to that already, but with the proposed changes to the XP ransack mechanic in quests it's going to become more vital than ever to not lose any XP from high-value quests.  That means No PUGs.  The only way you'll pull it off is if you're actually planning on marketing the game for a change and doing a push to get an influx of new players all at once. 

TR's are just being given more and more reason to never run with newbies.  The asinine decision to release a nerfed XP stone just to increase the number of people at a given level isn't going to change that one whit.

The XP on quests after the Vale and it's flagging missions is the problem.  If it were doubled or tripled on all heroic quests at level 17-18-20-20 then that would be about right. 

Here is how D&D works (and how DDO works up to level 16):
Higher level quests award more XP.

It's really that simple.

Like I said, it's a notion to consider as a starting point if trying to overhaul XP; the point being a more-or-less even progression each level.  Right now it's an absolute mess, and the ransack mechanic is going to make it much, much worse.

Seriously, it's like watching some godawful comedy movie where the guy's cooking dinner and it catches fire, so he throws water over it, which gets into the toaster, which explodes... five minutes later when his wife walks in, he's lying mostly naked on a pile of rubble that used to be the ceiling, covered in marmalade with a broom handle up his nose. 

"I've got it all under control, dear!  Dinner in five minutes!"

(The oven timer should now ping, for comic effect).