Asheras wrote on Jul 13
th, 2013 at 9:26am:
With 8 Int, you only get 1 skill point per level. So you aren't getting balance and concentration right now. But it's mandatory that you do in the new setup? That's bullshit.
It might be bullshit, but that's what I have right now... As I said my stats ( tomes and items separated ) are available. Int8 with a +1 Tome = 0 modifier = 2 Skill Points.
What is mandatory ( or will become mandatory ) is Spellcraft and Heal, that means finding 2 to 4 more skill points ( as it's no use if they are not maxed ), and that means finding 6 ( ok 5 in my case with the tome ) to 8 more build points.
They will become as mandatory as Toughness is right now.
Asheras wrote on Jul 13
th, 2013 at 9:26am:
You only need 4 more int to get to 3 skill points and add in the two new skills and you are riight where you were. Trying to make it sound like you NEED to max all four when currently you can only max 1 of 2 is crap.
I need more Int for the new fucking skills that weren't considered originally and because unless they are maxed skills are irrelevant.
Asheras wrote on Jul 13
th, 2013 at 9:26am:
Get a Charisma tome to replace the missing point there.
Stats are public, go check them... Already maxed in Cha Tome.
You fucking didn't follow the restrictions :
18 Wis, 13 Con, 12/13 Cha are min,
WITHOUT TOMES .
Next you're going to tell me that Hit Points are not important and I shouldn't waste the build points in Con to get Toughness... 700 HP is a nice cushion that goes away really fast in Epic Elite, 550 won't cut it.
Asheras wrote on Jul 13
th, 2013 at 9:26am:
Do a single TR. It's only 3 million XP. Use a Bigbys stone and it's 1.7 million (less than a 1st lifer). Use an Ottos and its 700k. That will get you 1 extra skill point.
I think I said TR is not an option asshole... I don't want to spend 6 fucking month levelling my Main. Because that's what it's going to take me.
Asheras wrote on Jul 13
th, 2013 at 9:26am:
Hearing you say "I want 4 skill points but don't want to TR" sounds very much like "I want the all the cool stuff but I don't want to actually, you know, play the game to get them". This is where the lazy and entitled perception starts to appear. You gotta run TR's, grind EE's for gear, grind for skill tomes and Stat tomes or something to improve the build. There are all kind of options and choices. But the one where you get everything with no effort in game? That's where you are getting silly.
You are a fucking fanboi and you do not want to understand : I don't want my characters, that I have been playing during 7 years crippled by a fucking system change.
The +20 LR they gives us will partially uncripple it, but due to the new system all the WIS and Cha based spellcasters are going to be relegated to second zone spellcasters due to the skill points and the Spellcraft skill that is INT based.
Now for a few things about quicken :
- you can play without it, up to and including old epics.
- you can play without it, up to an including Epic Hard.
It is required for Epic Elite though.
Concentration on the other hand is needed when it comes to scroll healing, as quicken don't work on scrolls. Also it makes it possible to play up to Epic Hard without having to rely on Quicken.
One day they are going to nerf Quicken, they already tried, they will come back to it.
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