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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Here You Go Reply #25 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 8:13pm	Print Post
	mystafyi wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 6:43pm: Its going to be great when every class gets to toss around fire/acid/sonic/hell balls Really Maj? Isnt it depressing to know that the best improvement to this game would be to FIRE everyone and Roll the game back a couple of years? STFU already.� It costs 50 SP to use and DCs are based off of INT or CHA.� There's also the clause "Successful Reflex saving throws may negate each type of damage." which makes it wallpaper for EE content.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Here You Go Reply #26 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 8:15pm	Print Post
	Persiflage wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 8:09pm: Honestly, it's about time.� I mean, what the hell is the point of being a Wizard if you can't turn someone into a frog? Wizards are still shit out of luck. It's DC 20 + WIS modifier.


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pnellesen Titan Demolisher Offline We can't all just get along. Posts: 311 Joined: Dec 6^th, 2011	Re: Here You Go Reply #27 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 10:57pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 8:15pm: Wizards are still shit out of luck.� It's DC 20 + WIS modifier.� That's all I got...


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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Here You Go Reply #28 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 6:31am	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 8:15pm: Wizards are still shit out of luck.� It's DC 20 + WIS modifier.� sigh Didn't catch that. Everyone's shit out of luck in that case, unless there's a population of Transmutation-focused Wis casters out there I've never run across :/

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Shuy Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 613 Joined: Jun 29^th, 2013	Re: Here You Go Reply #29 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 7:22am	Print Post
	The Epic Spellpower gives +20? And this is an Epic destiny feat? Hellball, here I come.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Here You Go Reply #30 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 8:31am	Print Post
	Forced Escape: 30 SP.� You radiate destruction, dealing 20d20 sonic damage to enemies around you.� Enemies succeeding a Fortitude saving throw vs DC 20 + WIS take half damage.� This dispels crowd control effects such as stun on you, and can be used when stunned or otherwise incapacitated (but still conscious).� 2 Divine EDs capped. Tactician: +2 Tactical Feat DC.� 1 Martial ED capped. Pierce Adamantine: Your equipped weapons are considered Adamantine.� 1 Martial ED capped.� <-- Versions for each metal type. Mithril version doesn't appear to work. First Blood: Melee weapon and unarmed attacks deals 5d20 more against enemies with more than 90% HP.� This extra damage won't trigger twice within three seconds.� 2 Martial EDs capped. Elusive Target: Each time you would be physically damaged, you have a 5% chance to completely ignore the damage.� Applies to physical attacks and spells that deal physical damage.� 2 Martial EDs capped. What wasn't clearly explained earlier: ED feats are granted at levels 26 and 28 like bonus feats for Fighters and Monks.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Here You Go Reply #31 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:23am	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 2:41pm: Hellball: 10d6 acid, fire, lightning and sonic damage to enemies in an area.� INT and CHA versions. Wait . . . is this 10d6 for EACH element at the same time?


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Here You Go Reply #32 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:30am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:23am: Wait . . . is this 10d6 for EACH element at the same time? Yes.

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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Here You Go Reply #33 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 12:49pm	Print Post
	hmm capped you say? guess i need to play my fvs more she has everything to level 5, but not capped


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Shuy Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 613 Joined: Jun 29^th, 2013	Re: Here You Go Reply #34 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 1:06pm	Print Post
	Quote: Elusive Target: Each time you would be physically damaged, you have a 5% chance to completely ignore the damage. Applies to physical attacks and spells that deal physical damage. 2 Martial EDs capped. This is nice. Displacement + Shadow form + Elusive Target + Uncanny Dodge + 25% dodge = My Rogue is now immortal-ish.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Here You Go Reply #35 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	Shuy wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 1:06pm: This is nice. Displacement + Shadow form + Elusive Target + Uncanny Dodge + 25% dodge = My Rogue is now immortal-ish. Displacement + Shadow Veil + 25% Dodge = Mobs hit you 28.125% of the time. Displacement + Shadow Veil + 25% Dodge + Elusive Target = Mobs hit you 26.71875% of the time.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Here You Go Reply #36 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 1:49pm	Print Post
	Did the tod sets update retroactively? If so, what do they look like now? If not, someone run ToD on Lamannia.


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Shuy Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 613 Joined: Jun 29^th, 2013	Re: Here You Go Reply #37 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 7:18am	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 1:32pm: Displacement + Shadow Veil + 25% Dodge = Mobs hit you 28.125% of the time. Displacement + Shadow Veil + 25% Dodge + Elusive Target = Mobs hit you 26.71875% of the time. Yes. It may not seem a big increase but it is imho. Add to that: Uncanny Dodge Meld Into Darkness and we are looking at some serious survavibility. Also, this affects spells too. If with spells they mean even DoTs like Burning Blood, even better.


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higgildypiggildy Stormreaver Piker Offline I just mock the world Posts: 660 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2011	Re: Here You Go Reply #38 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 7:42am	Print Post
	existing ToD seem to be unchanged

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LafoMamone Waterworks Kobold Offline Feather of Sun's Chief Muse Posts: 117 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2013	Re: Here You Go Reply #39 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 9:21am	Print Post
	Shuy wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 7:18am: Yes. It may not seem a big increase but it is imho. Add to that: Uncanny Dodge Meld Into Darkness and we are looking at some serious survavibility. Also, this affects spells too. If with spells they mean even DoTs like Burning Blood, even better. Improved Uncanny Dodge and MID should put you in the 100% miss chance anyway (which is the reason why they have such tiny durations), so there is no benefit from Elusive Target. As far as spells go, the really bad one with physical damage is Blade Barrier, and as a Rogue, you should always have the saves to evade that one. I just don't see how anyone can justify taking this feat right now. 5% is a joke for a supposed epic feat.
	« Last Edit: Jul 15^th, 2013 at 9:22am by LafoMamone »

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Dickbutt Titan Demolisher Offline Richard Butkus Posts: 386 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2011	Re: Here You Go Reply #40 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 9:47am	Print Post
	LafoMamone wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 9:21am: Improved Uncanny Dodge and MID should put you in the 100% miss chance anyway (which is the reason why they have such tiny durations), so there is no benefit from Elusive Target. MiD will, but IUD won't. IUD only gives 50% more. You would have to already be at 50% dodge to reach 100%. Though with the other mentioned buffs, mobs would only hit you 9.375% of the time. There are also a few enhancements in the pass that increase max dodge bonus. They seem rather expensive, though. LafoMamone wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 9:21am: I just don't see how anyone can justify taking this feat right now. 5% is a joke for a supposed epic feat. I would rather see something to increase the dodge cap, as that is more beneficial in how it stacks.


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LafoMamone Waterworks Kobold Offline Feather of Sun's Chief Muse Posts: 117 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2013	Re: Here You Go Reply #41 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 9:56am	Print Post
	Dickbutt wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 9:47am: MiD will, but IUD won't. IUD only gives 50% more. You would have to already be at 50% dodge to reach 100%. Though with the other mentioned buffs, mobs would only hit you 9.375% of the time. I mentioned IUD in conjunction with Incorporeality and Concealment buffs, of course. I guess it depends on how many feats you have to waste, but I have yet to see a compelling reason to blow a feat on this garbage. It has a 5% of proc whenever you would take damage. The wording sounds suspiciously like the Torc mechanism, meaning that as long as mobs miss, it won't have any effect. So theoretically, of those 9.375% that you would get hit, only 5% would of those would be completely negated, which amounts to a percentage of 0.47. That's pretty horrible IMO.
	« Last Edit: Jul 15^th, 2013 at 10:06am by LafoMamone »

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Dickbutt Titan Demolisher Offline Richard Butkus Posts: 386 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2011	Re: Here You Go Reply #42 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 10:09am	Print Post
	LafoMamone wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 9:56am: It has a 5% of proc whenever you would take damage. The wording sounds suspiciously like the Torc mechanism, meaning that as long as mobs miss, it won't have any effect. It wouldn't matter either way. Whether it's calculated before or after the other effects, it's the same, low difference if it doesn't add onto another effect.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Here You Go Reply #43 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 10:19am	Print Post
	higgildypiggildy wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 7:42am: existing ToD seem to be unchanged Fucking shocking.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Here You Go Reply #44 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 3:50pm	Print Post
	higgildypiggildy wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 7:42am: existing ToD seem to be unchanged People shouldn't care.� ToD sets are not end game gear.� I despise wearing the ghetto Gilvaenor's set on my AA.� Turbine's itemization team needs to feather_of_sun the stacking ranged haste already and introduce well itemized ML28 gear to replace it.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Here You Go Reply #45 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 3:56pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 3:50pm: People shouldn't care.� ToD sets are not end game gear.� I despise wearing the ghetto Gilvaenor's set on my AA.� Turbine's itemization team needs to feather_of_sun the stacking ranged haste already and introduce well itemized ML28 gear to replace it. What ring/belt combination is more DPS added than ravager? AA necklace is still good. Rest of it? Meh . . .


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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Here You Go Reply #46 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 4:03pm	Print Post
	Isn't Shintao dmg bonus multiplied on crits ? Or ditching ravager lets you get higher str, seeker or whatever elsewhere ?


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IMARANGER Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 5034 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2013	Re: Here You Go Reply #47 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 4:03pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 3:50pm: People shouldn't care.� ToD sets are not end game gear for many toons in many circumstances. FTFY.

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higgildypiggildy Stormreaver Piker Offline I just mock the world Posts: 660 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2011	Re: Here You Go Reply #48 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 4:05pm	Print Post
	ToD ring for a monk is still pretty damn good with Holy Burst on it isn't it?

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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Here You Go Reply #49 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 4:14pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 4:03pm: Isn't Shintao dmg bonus multiplied on crits ? yes, but the AA one is a real 10% RoF increase for ranged and melee the Stormreaver necklace is better. Also with all the fucking damage we do now 2 points a shot one way or another is meh. Wipe wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 4:03pm: Or ditching ravager lets you get higher str, seeker or whatever elsewhere ? Nothing comes ahead in the DPS calcs . . . yet. I mean it's not good enough to bother pursuing on anyone who doesn't have it.


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