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Reply #100 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 3:11pm
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rest wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 3:08pm:
When have the "placeholder" numbers on Lamannia ever not gone live as-seen and all fucked up?


Update 18. People liked the price of augments in collectors on Lamma, and then they jacked em up for live.
  
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Reply #101 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 3:19pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 1:38pm:
Fixing stupid with stupid just makes problems worse.


Yeah, still can't really describe my feelings on that subject better than:

Persiflage wrote on Jul 14th, 2013 at 8:03pm:
Seriously, it's like watching some godawful comedy movie where the guy's cooking dinner and it catches fire, so he throws water over it, which gets into the toaster, which explodes... five minutes later when his wife walks in, he's lying mostly naked on a pile of rubble that used to be the ceiling, covered in marmalade with a broom handle up his nose. 

"I've got it all under control, dear!  Dinner in five minutes!"

(The oven timer should now ping, for comic effect).



I don't know; maybe if you can add enough stupid, the stupid cancels out the stupid somehow, leaving you with less stupid.  Or something.
  

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wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Re: New things in Closed Beta that you should read
Reply #102 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 3:20pm
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AnalFissure wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 3:11pm:
Update 18. People liked the price of augments in collectors on Lamma, and then they jacked em up for live.



Sorry I guess I should have specified - when have they not been at least as bad if not worse than what we see on Lamannia?

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Reply #103 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 3:22pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 3:09pm:
is it confirmed that this ransack will still be in effect once we're at XP cap?

I haven't seen anything either way.  I'm only speculating that it would apply at cap.
  
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Reply #104 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 3:26pm
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AnalFissure wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 3:11pm:
Update 18. People liked the price of augments in collectors on Lamma, and then they jacked em up for live.


i think they adjusted the numbers to shit sandwich level while it was still on lamania.
  
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Reply #105 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 3:31pm
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And since I find it hard to believe: Do we still get 80 AP to put in all of these trees?
  
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Reply #106 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 3:52pm
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Inkblack wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
And since I find it hard to believe: Do we still get 80 AP to put in all of these trees?

I believe so. I heard some AP costs for some of the abilities have been lowered.
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Reply #107 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 3:52pm
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Feklar wrote on Jul 14th, 2013 at 10:50pm:
Has anyone mathed out how this will affect F2P? That is, I think it's still possible to cap at 25 with only the F2P quests (yes?)


I very much doubt this.
  

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Reply #108 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 4:08pm
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The price of augments was unrealistically low.  Now it is pretty reasonable.
  

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Reply #109 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 4:09pm
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F2P - they get 25tp for every 100 faction.  Spend that on buying quests. 
That's still free (of money, but not time)
  

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Reply #110 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 8:48pm
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reniats wrote on Jul 13th, 2013 at 5:56pm:


OG, 30% penalty for running any quest for the second time at a difficulty already run?  What kind of idiot designed that.
  
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Reply #111 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 8:59pm
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 4:08pm:
The price of augments was unrealistically low.  Now it is pretty reasonable.


What retard would pay anything for a RANDOM augment?

  
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Reply #112 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 9:57pm
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I can't believe the ineptitude of not using all zeroes or all 9's placeholder values.  It's so silly that it must be a lie.

Since they do know enough to use TBD for alpha placeholders, the lie becomes more obvious.
  

            
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Reply #113 - Jul 18th, 2013 at 6:27am
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Bill Z Bubb wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 9:57pm:
I can't believe the ineptitude of not using all zeroes or all 9's placeholder values.  It's so silly that it must be a lie.

Since they do know enough to use TBD for alpha placeholders, the lie becomes more obvious.


I assume they would choose values that would make testing easier... but then I look at the actual numbers and wonder why they would choose to make it take over 2 weeks to fully test reverse xp decay.
  
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Reply #114 - Jul 18th, 2013 at 10:43am
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Yeah, I thought about this later that the values represented actual in-use values and not necessarily description values and came to the same conclusion as you, values somewhere in the neighborhood of what would ever be considered final would be used.
  

            
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Reply #115 - Jul 18th, 2013 at 11:02am
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Dickbutt wrote on Jul 18th, 2013 at 6:27am:
I assume they would choose values that would make testing easier... but then I look at the actual numbers and wonder why they would choose to make it take over 2 weeks to fully test reverse xp decay.

Shade must be independently validating the math for Turbine.
  
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Reply #116 - Jul 18th, 2013 at 11:32am
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I believe Vargo once said that the system actually has sanity checks in place to keep "obviously wrong" xp values from being used in the system, so they can't use 1 xp or 9,000,000 xp.
  
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Reply #117 - Jul 18th, 2013 at 3:17pm
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Persiflage wrote on Jul 13th, 2013 at 7:10pm:
No more farming high-XP quests;

Ouch. Pretty clear message.
  
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Reply #118 - Jul 18th, 2013 at 3:44pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 1:56pm:
ENH pass [...] level up. [...] +5 item [...]

it's still addressing an issue in the dumbest way possible.

Not if the aim is to get you playing more chasing that shit.
  
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Reply #119 - Jul 18th, 2013 at 3:48pm
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kum-gulp wrote on Jul 18th, 2013 at 3:44pm:
Not if the aim is to get you playing more chasing that shit.


How much we play doesn't matter to them, why should it?

What matter to them is how much money you spend.  The ubber-loot will drop so we all buy the pack.

Though invalidating all the loot that's come before every update is really getting old.  Makes playing the game seem pointless because it's a recreation activity and it is pointless.  You don't want to shine too much of a light on that.

Regarding the necro DC . . . if they've left saves as is or even worse . . . raised them over EE GH the pursuit of said item is worthless.
  
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Reply #120 - Jul 18th, 2013 at 7:18pm
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,GKar wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 8:59pm:
What retard would pay anything for a RANDOM augment?



I paid 60 plat for a level 4 random augment to do some bug testing.  It came from the AH, but I didn't actually look at the augment's name before I bought it, so it was still random for me.
  
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Reply #121 - Jul 18th, 2013 at 11:54pm
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What's this "random augment" crap you speak of?
  
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Reply #122 - Jul 19th, 2013 at 12:25am
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Carpone wrote on Jul 18th, 2013 at 11:02am:
Shade must be independently validating the math for Turbine.


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Reply #123 - Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:58pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Jul 18th, 2013 at 3:48pm:
How much we play doesn't matter to them, why should it?

You play more, you're on more, you're more likely to spend money. Inactive players don't generate income. Unless they're dormant VIPs (read: lazy & more money than sense).
  
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Reply #124 - Jul 19th, 2013 at 6:31pm
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kum-gulp wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:58pm:
You play more, you're on more, you're more likely to spend money.


Not entirely true.  People with jobs spend more money.  And play less than teens and college students and the unemployed.
  
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