This is the same bullshit they've been doing since U14 (and before?).  They come out with something mindblowingly fucking stupid then scale it back so the retarded masses will look at it and say "Oh, this is much better than what they were planning."  Wail of the Banshee and Haunted comes to mind.

karatekid wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 8:25pm:


I have reservoirs of hope and innocence that not even Turbine has yet drained.  Mostly because I haven't let Turbine access those reservoirs before now.

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reniats wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 8:39pm:


The man has balls.  You go!  And thanks.

Limpgimp wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 8:38pm:


Not much they can do to fix it to make me ever want to spend money on Turbine again.

Last time, I spent money on an expansion and they nerfed the ruleset.

This time, I didn't spend the money because I figured they would screw up the game. Yet again, I see Turbine has met my expectations.

Does it really hurt their butts that someone likes one quest over another? Those devs need to GET OVER IT! So what if someone doesn't want to run your lame quest over someone else's... quit forcing people to play a different way.
FIX BUGS. Quit nerfing things that aren't exploits.


The penalty is complete stupidity:
1) You still have to complete a quest to get XP. It isn't like people are exploiting.
2) Some quests are conducent to certain classes. Forcing every class to run most every quest will just drive people away.
3) Not everyone bought all the quests. This will just drive them away since they are forced to play quests they can't complete.
4) Some of these quests are favorites to run with friends. Heck, some are favorites to run with pugs. Why would I help out a pug where I would get 10% XP instead of 50%?

It is like going to McDonalds and having the manager say, "I am sorry, it does say free refills, but you can't get a full refill of Dr. Pepper again - just a shot glass worth and you have to go back to the end of the line again. You now need to buy the diet, coffee, lemonaide, and tea to get a full size. Don't forget to pay for another cup!"

reniats wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 5:56pm:


This will go horribly wrong even if they reduce the total xp needed to cap, because none of them has ever actually leveled a 3rd life TR. I am willing to bet that it will become more of a grind even if they reduce it to a 2nd life TR xp.

In other words, fuck everything about this.

Darth Anonymous wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 7:37pm:


Wait for them to tell us that they are killing Retarded Streak...
I expect the announcement to be tucked somewhere in the middle of the flatten the XP curve.

Personally I don't care about Retarded Streak, it kills Pugging, it kills challenging quests.
The old system was way better ( more XP if you are below the quest level ( 10% for each level difference between the highest party member and the quest level with a cap at 50% + first times Bonus when applicable ) ), and doing VON 3 as a LVL 5 party was challenging.
And you had a lot of fun doing it... sure you didn't zerg it, but that wasone of the points : zerg = quest at level, no bonus, slow = quests 5 level higher than the party, heaps of bonus.
And last to do quests that way you had to be in a full party, soloing or duoing was not cutting it.

I hadn't seen yet that Quest Ransack. Bullshit.

LafoMamone wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 8:44am:


I'm honestly not worried about low levels.  I get to level 5 on a 2 TR with just an EE BB.  I get to level 7 the same way and the only P2P packs I use are Tangleroot, STK, and Catacombs. 

It's 12-20 where this will be felt.

pnellesen wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 4:08pm:


This is actually pretty important, especially with Feather out-dating your loot every update.  We need to hold on to more shit unless your plan is to never ever TR again.

pnellesen wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 4:08pm:


2 Pally 13 Sorc instant Iconic bank toons

Asheras wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 9:30am:


We don't know if BB will be kept as it is currently. With the magnitude of this XP overhaul and the incompetence of the people doing it, it may very well end up becoming an innocent bystander or an intended target.

OnePercenter wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 6:30pm:

Maybe it's just me, but more bank toons just don't help me at all. Unless we get account wide search or you keep spreadsheet with shit you got ( well fuck me ), moar bank space doesn't help.  It helps for a while, but then it fills with shit you forget about and you are back at point where you started
Persiflage wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Gotta cap destinies before it goes live !
Less toons = good thing ( eat that altoholics ). No way in hell I am rolling more after Shadowfell.