Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 ... 6 Send TopicPrint
Very Hot Topic (More than 75 Replies) What're the new quests like on EE? (Read 26773 times)
Carpone
Puppy Farmer
****
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 1695
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #25 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 10:43am
Print Post  
For TWF, I'd consider 9 Monk/8 Fighter/3 Ranger:

Kensei (33): +1 Crit range
Ninja Spy (11): Shadow Veil
Shintao (15): 10% offhand proc, 15 PRR, 15% healing amp
Deepwood Stalker (6): 1 SA, +75 positive spell power
Tempest (6): 10% offhand proc.

That leaves a meager 9 AP for racial, but you have a 15-20 crit range on Nightmare or Celestia with 100% offhand procs.  If someone can build a better TWF (not unarmed), please post it.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Carpone
Puppy Farmer
****
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 1695
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #26 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 12:17pm
Print Post  
Doublepost.
« Last Edit: Aug 10th, 2013 at 12:18pm by Carpone »  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Glenalth
Puppy Farmer
****
Offline


Not banned, just bored

Posts: 1602
Location: Albuquerque
Joined: Sep 13th, 2010
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #27 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 1:38pm
Print Post  
Carpone wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 10:11am:
I verified it with Clever.  Tier5 Kensei sets the crit range to 19-20 in the inspection tooltip.  I also verified it critting on a roll of 17 against the kobolds in the dojo.


That is a bit more exciting...
  
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Bigjunk
Horoluth Raider
****
Offline


Hjeal meh!

Posts: 2686
Joined: Feb 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #28 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 2:12pm
Print Post  
Carpone wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 10:43am:
. . .but you have a 15-20 crit range on Nightmare or Celestia . . .


Wait . . . what?  The Kensai crit-range is hitting BEFORE improved crit?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Bigjunk
Horoluth Raider
****
Offline


Hjeal meh!

Posts: 2686
Joined: Feb 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #29 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 2:34pm
Print Post  
Bigjunk wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 2:12pm:
Wait . . . what?  The Kensai crit-range is hitting BEFORE improved crit?


Holy shit . . . yes it does.  Just critted on the 13 with a Balizarde.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Carpone
Puppy Farmer
****
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 1695
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #30 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 2:53pm
Print Post  
Bigjunk wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 2:34pm:
Holy shit . . . yes it does.  Just critted on the 13 with a Balizarde.

Yep.  I haven't seen how Kensei interacts with Pulverizer.  Mornh might have a 13-20 crit range.  13-20 crit range with eSoS...maybe it'll make a comeback. Smiley
« Last Edit: Aug 10th, 2013 at 2:55pm by Carpone »  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Bigjunk
Horoluth Raider
****
Offline


Hjeal meh!

Posts: 2686
Joined: Feb 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #31 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 3:02pm
Print Post  
Carpone wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 2:53pm:
Yep.  I haven't seen how Kensei interacts with Pulverizer.  Mornh might have a 13-20 crit range.  13-20 crit range with eSoS...maybe it'll make a comeback. Smiley


I hope it's not fixed, it's not that unreasonable.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Carpone
Puppy Farmer
****
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 1695
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #32 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 3:06pm
Print Post  
Bigjunk wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 3:02pm:
I hope it's not fixed, it's not that unreasonable.

AFAIK it's how it's been working on live for quite a while.  Don't see a need to change it.  Many other enhancement trees were beefed up to Kensei's level, although they have a much narrower weapon scope.

So what changed with Balizarde?  Did the Superior Parrying ability get buffed to a point where it's meaningful on a weapon?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Bigjunk
Horoluth Raider
****
Offline


Hjeal meh!

Posts: 2686
Joined: Feb 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #33 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 6:26pm
Print Post  
Carpone wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 3:06pm:
So what changed with Balizarde?  Did the Superior Parrying ability get buffed to a point where it's meaningful on a weapon?


I don't think it changed at all, it's still the highest damage 1-hander.

But I'm still thinking heavy-blades are a better bet with 15-20 woowoo blades.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Dickbutt
Titan Demolisher
****
Offline


Richard Butkus

Posts: 386
Joined: Aug 18th, 2011
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #34 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 7:27pm
Print Post  
Bigjunk wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 6:26pm:
I don't think it changed at all, it's still the highest damage 1-hander.

But I'm still thinking heavy-blades are a better bet with 15-20 woowoo blades.


Sacrificial Daggers would also be 15-20 woowoo blades. Light blades seems to have more versatility for one-handed weapons. On the other hand, Nightmare doesn't require weapon swapping or getting a set each of Celestias, Sacrificial Daggers, and/or Balizardes.

On another note, I just tried Henshin Staff specialization with IC:B and Pulverizer. Either Staff Spec and Pulverizer aren't stacking or they both apply after IC. I was getting 13-20/x3 with a Sireth, instead of the expected 11-20/x3
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Carpone
Puppy Farmer
****
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 1695
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #35 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 7:32pm
Print Post  
Dickbutt wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 7:27pm:
On another note, I just tried Henshin Staff specialization with IC:B and Pulverizer. Either Staff Spec and Pulverizer aren't stacking or they both apply after IC. I was getting 13-20/x3 with a Sireth, instead of the expected 11-20/x3

Pulverizer does not apply to Sireth.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Dickbutt
Titan Demolisher
****
Offline


Richard Butkus

Posts: 386
Joined: Aug 18th, 2011
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #36 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 7:36pm
Print Post  
Carpone wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 7:32pm:
Pulverizer does not apply to Sireth.


In that case, I'm guessing it won't work on a random quarterstaff in winter wolf form, either.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Wipe
VoD Slasher
*****
Offline



Posts: 1917
Joined: Mar 26th, 2012
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #37 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 7:47pm
Print Post  
Bigjunk wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 2:12pm:
Wait . . . what?  The Kensai crit-range is hitting BEFORE improved crit?

Never had a 18+ kensei, but been reading countless posts for 3 years on forums that it works after imp crit.
So talk about being dumb.
And yes, asked the same after critting on 13 on Lama.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Carpone
Puppy Farmer
****
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 1695
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #38 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 10:21pm
Print Post  
Dickbutt wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 7:36pm:
In that case, I'm guessing it won't work on a random quarterstaff in winter wolf form, either.

Sireth is piercing.  It should work fine on "normal" staves.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Carpone
Puppy Farmer
****
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 1695
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #39 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 7:31pm
Print Post  
Carpone wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 10:43am:
For TWF, I'd consider 9 Monk/8 Fighter/3 Ranger:

Kensei (33): +1 Crit range
Ninja Spy (11): Shadow Veil
Shintao (15): 10% offhand proc, 15 PRR, 15% healing amp
Deepwood Stalker (6): 1 SA, +75 positive spell power
Tempest (6): 10% offhand proc.

That leaves a meager 9 AP for racial, but you have a 15-20 crit range on Nightmare or Celestia with 100% offhand procs.  If someone can build a better TWF (not unarmed), please post it.

I tested this build by soloing EE Lines of Supply (I failed).  While it was cool having 100% offhand procs and cleaving to woo-woo multiple mobs at a time, the cons:

* It's too AP intensive. I had to sacrifice Human heal amp from 30% to 10%. That really put a dent in the efficacy of Rejuv Cocoon. Do not like.

* I simply wasn't doing enough damage with the dual Nightmares to kill the CR73 giant supply carriers before I lost a stack of Master's Blitz.

I prefer the damage of the Cleaver version.
« Last Edit: Aug 11th, 2013 at 7:33pm by Carpone »  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Bigjunk
Horoluth Raider
****
Offline


Hjeal meh!

Posts: 2686
Joined: Feb 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #40 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 11:35pm
Print Post  
Carpone wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 7:31pm:
* I simply wasn't doing enough damage with the dual Nightmares to kill the CR73 giant supply carriers before I lost a stack of Master's Blitz.


Now this makes me wonder how well a Balizarde version would do.

Still torn.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Glenalth
Puppy Farmer
****
Offline


Not banned, just bored

Posts: 1602
Location: Albuquerque
Joined: Sep 13th, 2010
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #41 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 12:11am
Print Post  
Carpone wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 10:21pm:
Sireth is piercing.  It should work fine on "normal" staves.


Due to it's bludgeon coding, it works on Longbow of the Silver Flame as well.
  
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Carpone
Puppy Farmer
****
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 1695
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #42 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 6:49am
Print Post  
Bigjunk wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 11:35pm:
Now this makes me wonder how well a Balizarde version would do.

Still torn.

I'd love to hear about your test results with Balizarde.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Bigjunk
Horoluth Raider
****
Offline


Hjeal meh!

Posts: 2686
Joined: Feb 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #43 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 9:20am
Print Post  
Carpone wrote on Aug 12th, 2013 at 6:49am:
I'd love to hear about your test results with Balizarde.


Not gonna happen, that toon's already a monk.

But stupid question with the things that took too long to kill . . . Red or Orange?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
LordPiglet
Stormreaver Piker
*
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 660
Location: H-Town
Joined: Jan 30th, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #44 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 10:50am
Print Post  
Arkat wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 9:58am:
Any thoughts on the advantages of 6Druid over 6Ranger? My concept is a THW (Drow Greataxe) toon who uses Stunning Blow a lot.


The big different in splashing either druid or paly over ranger is access to empower heal since rangers don't qualify for that feat until level 8 compared to level 4 for paly and level 1 for druid.  Druid will give you buffs  and frankly if you're THF then some of the advantages of the free ranger feats (TWF, ITWF) are lost.  Carpone actually posted a pretty good build on the forums for a THF 10/8/2 monk/fighter/druid.

I also forgot about the druid doublestrike boosts.
« Last Edit: Aug 12th, 2013 at 11:18am by LordPiglet »  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Shadehater
Dropbear Awareness Society
*
Offline


Smite Stupid!

Posts: 2174
Joined: May 6th, 2012
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #45 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 10:59am
Print Post  
A 1 Ranger splash lets you trade 1 feat (empower healing)  for 7 AP  (+75 positive Spell power) and a die of sneak attack.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Shadehater
Dropbear Awareness Society
*
Offline


Smite Stupid!

Posts: 2174
Joined: May 6th, 2012
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #46 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 11:24am
Print Post  
Recheck on a few things.  Go Druid splash.  Magical Training +5 minute Ram's Might + 30% double strike action boost > saving one feat that will be used on equivalent positive spell power
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
LordPiglet
Stormreaver Piker
*
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 660
Location: H-Town
Joined: Jan 30th, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #47 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 12:12pm
Print Post  
Carpone wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 10:43am:
For TWF, I'd consider 9 Monk/8 Fighter/3 Ranger:

Kensei (33): +1 Crit range
Ninja Spy (11): Shadow Veil
Shintao (15): 10% offhand proc, 15 PRR, 15% healing amp
Deepwood Stalker (6): 1 SA, +75 positive spell power
Tempest (6): 10% offhand proc.

That leaves a meager 9 AP for racial, but you have a 15-20 crit range on Nightmare or Celestia with 100% offhand procs.  If someone can build a better TWF (not unarmed), please post it.


Did you check the 10/8/2 THF as a TWF?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Carpone
Puppy Farmer
****
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 1695
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2011
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #48 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 1:26pm
Print Post  
Bigjunk wrote on Aug 12th, 2013 at 9:20am:
But stupid question with the things that took too long to kill . . . Red or Orange?

Just trash mobs: CR 73 giants.  The Netherese mages were easy enough to kill.  The giants just have an asston of HP.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
rest
One Man Wolfpack
*
Offline



Posts: 7223
Joined: Aug 13th, 2010
Gender: Male
Re: What're the new quests like on EE?
Reply #49 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 3:25pm
Print Post  
CR 73 trash mobs?

LOLWUT
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 ... 6
Send TopicPrint