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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #25 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 10:43am	Print Post
	For TWF, I'd consider 9 Monk/8 Fighter/3 Ranger: Kensei (33): +1 Crit range Ninja Spy (11): Shadow Veil Shintao (15): 10% offhand proc, 15 PRR, 15% healing amp Deepwood Stalker (6): 1 SA, +75 positive spell power Tempest (6): 10% offhand proc. That leaves a meager 9 AP for racial, but you have a 15-20 crit range on Nightmare or Celestia with 100% offhand procs. If someone can build a better TWF (not unarmed), please post it.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #26 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 12:17pm	Print Post
	Doublepost.
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Glenalth Puppy Farmer Offline Not banned, just bored Posts: 1602 Location: Albuquerque Joined: Sep 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #27 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 1:38pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 10:11am: I verified it with Clever.� Tier5 Kensei sets the crit range to 19-20 in the inspection tooltip.� I also verified it critting on a roll of 17 against the kobolds in the dojo. That is a bit more exciting...


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #28 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 2:12pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 10:43am: . . .but you have a 15-20 crit range on Nightmare or Celestia . . . Wait . . . what? The Kensai crit-range is hitting BEFORE improved crit?


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #29 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 2:34pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 2:12pm: Wait . . . what?� The Kensai crit-range is hitting BEFORE improved crit? Holy shit . . . yes it does. Just critted on the 13 with a Balizarde.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #30 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 2:53pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 2:34pm: Holy shit . . . yes it does.� Just critted on the 13 with a Balizarde. Yep.� I haven't seen how Kensei interacts with Pulverizer.� Mornh might have a 13-20 crit range. 13-20 crit range with eSoS...maybe it'll make a comeback.
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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #31 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 3:02pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 2:53pm: Yep.� I haven't seen how Kensei interacts with Pulverizer.� Mornh might have a 13-20 crit range.� 13-20 crit range with eSoS...maybe it'll make a comeback. I hope it's not fixed, it's not that unreasonable.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #32 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 3:06pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 3:02pm: I hope it's not fixed, it's not that unreasonable. AFAIK it's how it's been working on live for quite a while. Don't see a need to change it. Many other enhancement trees were beefed up to Kensei's level, although they have a much narrower weapon scope. So what changed with Balizarde? Did the Superior Parrying ability get buffed to a point where it's meaningful on a weapon?


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #33 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 6:26pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 3:06pm: So what changed with Balizarde?� Did the Superior Parrying ability get buffed to a point where it's meaningful on a weapon? I don't think it changed at all, it's still the highest damage 1-hander. But I'm still thinking heavy-blades are a better bet with 15-20 woowoo blades.


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Dickbutt Titan Demolisher Offline Richard Butkus Posts: 386 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2011	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #34 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 7:27pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 6:26pm: I don't think it changed at all, it's still the highest damage 1-hander. But I'm still thinking heavy-blades are a better bet with 15-20 woowoo blades. Sacrificial Daggers would also be 15-20 woowoo blades. Light blades seems to have more versatility for one-handed weapons. On the other hand, Nightmare doesn't require weapon swapping or getting a set each of Celestias, Sacrificial Daggers, and/or Balizardes. On another note, I just tried Henshin Staff specialization with IC:B and Pulverizer. Either Staff Spec and Pulverizer aren't stacking or they both apply after IC. I was getting 13-20/x3 with a Sireth, instead of the expected 11-20/x3


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #35 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 7:32pm	Print Post
	Dickbutt wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 7:27pm: On another note, I just tried Henshin Staff specialization with IC:B and Pulverizer. Either Staff Spec and Pulverizer aren't stacking or they both apply after IC. I was getting 13-20/x3 with a Sireth, instead of the expected 11-20/x3 Pulverizer does not apply to Sireth.


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Dickbutt Titan Demolisher Offline Richard Butkus Posts: 386 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2011	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #36 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 7:36pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 7:32pm: Pulverizer does not apply to Sireth. In that case, I'm guessing it won't work on a random quarterstaff in winter wolf form, either.


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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #37 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 7:47pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 2:12pm: Wait . . . what?� The Kensai crit-range is hitting BEFORE improved crit? Never had a 18+ kensei, but been reading countless posts for 3 years on forums that it works after imp crit. So talk about being dumb. And yes, asked the same after critting on 13 on Lama.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #38 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 10:21pm	Print Post
	Dickbutt wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 7:36pm: In that case, I'm guessing it won't work on a random quarterstaff in winter wolf form, either. Sireth is piercing. It should work fine on "normal" staves.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #39 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:31pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 10:43am: For TWF, I'd consider 9 Monk/8 Fighter/3 Ranger: Kensei (33): +1 Crit range Ninja Spy (11): Shadow Veil Shintao (15): 10% offhand proc, 15 PRR, 15% healing amp Deepwood Stalker (6): 1 SA, +75 positive spell power Tempest (6): 10% offhand proc. That leaves a meager 9 AP for racial, but you have a 15-20 crit range on Nightmare or Celestia with 100% offhand procs.� If someone can build a better TWF (not unarmed), please post it. I tested this build by soloing EE Lines of Supply (I failed).� While it was cool having 100% offhand procs and cleaving to woo-woo multiple mobs at a time, the cons: * It's too AP intensive. I had to sacrifice Human heal amp from 30% to 10%. That really put a dent in the efficacy of Rejuv Cocoon. Do not like. * I simply wasn't doing enough damage with the dual Nightmares to kill the CR73 giant supply carriers before I lost a stack of Master's Blitz. I prefer the damage of the Cleaver version.
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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #40 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 11:35pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:31pm: * I simply wasn't doing enough damage with the dual Nightmares to kill the CR73 giant supply carriers before I lost a stack of Master's Blitz. Now this makes me wonder how well a Balizarde version would do. Still torn.


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Glenalth Puppy Farmer Offline Not banned, just bored Posts: 1602 Location: Albuquerque Joined: Sep 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #41 - Aug 12^th, 2013 at 12:11am	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 10:21pm: Sireth is piercing.� It should work fine on "normal" staves. Due to it's bludgeon coding, it works on Longbow of the Silver Flame as well.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #42 - Aug 12^th, 2013 at 6:49am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 11:35pm: Now this makes me wonder how well a Balizarde version would do. Still torn. I'd love to hear about your test results with Balizarde.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #43 - Aug 12^th, 2013 at 9:20am	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 12^th, 2013 at 6:49am: I'd love to hear about your test results with Balizarde. Not gonna happen, that toon's already a monk. But stupid question with the things that took too long to kill . . . Red or Orange?


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LordPiglet Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 660 Location: H-Town Joined: Jan 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #44 - Aug 12^th, 2013 at 10:50am	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 9:58am: Any thoughts on the advantages of 6Druid over 6Ranger? My concept is a THW (Drow Greataxe) toon who uses Stunning Blow a lot. The big different in splashing either druid or paly over ranger is access to empower heal since rangers don't qualify for that feat until level 8 compared to level 4 for paly and level 1 for druid.� Druid will give you buffs� and frankly if you're THF then some of the advantages of the free ranger feats (TWF, ITWF) are lost.� Carpone actually posted a pretty good build on the forums for a THF 10/8/2 monk/fighter/druid. I also forgot about the druid doublestrike boosts.
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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #45 - Aug 12^th, 2013 at 10:59am	Print Post
	A 1 Ranger splash lets you trade 1 feat (empower healing) for 7 AP (+75 positive Spell power) and a die of sneak attack.


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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #46 - Aug 12^th, 2013 at 11:24am	Print Post
	Recheck on a few things. Go Druid splash. Magical Training +5 minute Ram's Might + 30% double strike action boost > saving one feat that will be used on equivalent positive spell power


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LordPiglet Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 660 Location: H-Town Joined: Jan 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #47 - Aug 12^th, 2013 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 10:43am: For TWF, I'd consider 9 Monk/8 Fighter/3 Ranger: Kensei (33): +1 Crit range Ninja Spy (11): Shadow Veil Shintao (15): 10% offhand proc, 15 PRR, 15% healing amp Deepwood Stalker (6): 1 SA, +75 positive spell power Tempest (6): 10% offhand proc. That leaves a meager 9 AP for racial, but you have a 15-20 crit range on Nightmare or Celestia with 100% offhand procs.� If someone can build a better TWF (not unarmed), please post it. Did you check the 10/8/2 THF as a TWF?


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #48 - Aug 12^th, 2013 at 1:26pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Aug 12^th, 2013 at 9:20am: But stupid question with the things that took too long to kill . . . Red or Orange? Just trash mobs: CR 73 giants. The Netherese mages were easy enough to kill. The giants just have an asston of HP.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #49 - Aug 12^th, 2013 at 3:25pm	Print Post
	CR 73 trash mobs? LOLWUT


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