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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	What're the new quests like on EE? Aug 9^th, 2013 at 12:45pm	Print Post
	Harder than EE GH? That same? Etc . . . haven't checked them out.


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majmalphunktion Major Motherfucking Malphunktion Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 283 Joined: May 20^th, 2011	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #1 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 1:20pm	Print Post
	Harder than GH.


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Rincewind Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 97 Joined: Jun 12^th, 2013	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #2 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 1:24pm	Print Post
	hope that by harder you dont just mean more hp more raw damage, a higher saves... we will love to see different mechanics that makes the quest harder, ( such as random deadly traps and ambushes or deadly and squishy caster or assassins ( seems like the puppeteer are the like)


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #3 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 4:49pm	Print Post
	Rincewind wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 1:24pm: hope that by harder you dont just mean more hp more raw damage, a higher saves... we will love to see different mechanics that makes the quest harder, ( such as random deadly traps and ambushes or deadly and squishy caster or assassins ( seems like the puppeteer are the like) lol did you forget what game this is?


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #4 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 4:51pm	Print Post
	Mob density has increased and mobs hit hard.� In EE Lines of Supply, archers hit for 60, berserkers hit for ~300 and the red named end boss giant hits for 400 before damage reduction.� It's in your best interest as a melee to invest in max avoidance.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #5 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 5:02pm	Print Post
	6 monk ftw.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #6 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 5:45pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 5:02pm: 6 monk ftw. IMO, it's mandatory for melee that don't want/require a dedicated healer.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #7 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 5:48pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 5:45pm: IMO, it's mandatory for melee that don't want/require a dedicated healer. /agreed I mean.. no. 6 monk sucks. I sure hope they make it better cause it's so awful. Or at least leave it alone.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #8 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:00pm	Print Post
	holy christ quivering palm works for armed monks touch of death works for armed monks RIP unarmed monks. Only think they'll have going for them is stunning fist.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #9 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:29pm	Print Post
	I really ought to get around to designing my Nightmare kensai.


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GooFY Abbot Raider Offline Just one of those days... Posts: 771 Location: Washington State Joined: Dec 12^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #10 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:44pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:00pm: holy christ quivering palm works for armed monks touch of death works for armed monks RIP unarmed monks. Only think they'll have going for them is stunning fist. Why fix wraps when you can just make them irrelevant?


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LafoMamone Waterworks Kobold Offline Feather of Sun's Chief Muse Posts: 117 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2013	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #11 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:47pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:00pm: holy christ quivering palm works for armed monks touch of death works for armed monks RIP unarmed monks. Only think they'll have going for them is stunning fist. This is totally fucking stupid. I really wonder whose idea this was. Shit's getting more and more outrageous.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #12 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:48pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:29pm: I really ought to get around to designing my Nightmare kensai. I'm torn on mine. He's got two Balizardes and Celestias so light blades could be nice . . . but he also has two Nightmares and a bunch of Khopeshes. 25% more woowoo might be a better bet than the light-blades which would be more DPS.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #13 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:06pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:48pm: I'm torn on mine.� He's got two Balizardes and Celestias so light blades could be nice . . . but he also has two Nightmares and a bunch of Khopeshes.� 25% more woowoo might be a better bet than the light-blades which would be more DPS. Well I guess it boils down to how much time you spend beating up trash vs how much time you spend beating up bosses. More trash = woo woo. More bosses = DPS. Unfortunately it's not so cut-and-dried as that. Woo woo in EE is amazing, since the trash is absurd. Tough decision. I'm leaning towards my jugg becoming something woo woo, even if he does have balizardes and esos and all the other cool stuff.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #14 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	My fighter has neither eSOS nor Cleaver, and two Nightmares. And Nightmare is pretty much my favorite thing ever. So it's not much of a choice. Nightmare also works just fine in a lot of boss "tanking" (holding aggro) situations where you care about free heals more than absolute maximum DPS.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #15 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:04pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:00pm: Only think they'll have going for them is stunning fist. That's a kick ass reason to be unarmed, especially now with No Mercy.


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #16 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 9:28pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:04pm: That's a kick ass reason to be unarmed, especially now with No Mercy. Indeed. Sense Weakness works too.

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LordPiglet Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 660 Location: H-Town Joined: Jan 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #17 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 12:13am	Print Post
	so 8/6/6 with fighter/monk/ (ranger/druid/paly to taste)
	« Last Edit: Aug 10^th, 2013 at 12:14am by LordPiglet »

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kierg10 Shroud Slacker Offline Cuddly wuddly cats Posts: 1039 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #18 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 12:23am	Print Post
	personally im going with 12 6 2 fighter monk rogue, centred with khopeshes and umd/cacoon healing...... prob not optimal, but still pretty awesome.

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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #19 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 4:50am	Print Post
	LordPiglet wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 12:13am: so 8/6/6 with fighter/monk/ (ranger/druid/paly to taste) Looking at a Ftr8/Monk6/Rngr6 build right now. Also thinking about a Tank (Ftr8/Monk6/Pal6) version. Does anyone know if the Ftr and Pal defensive stances stack or not? If so, combine those with Tier 4 Earth Stance on a War/Bladeforged or Dwarf and you've got a nice little damage-taker. DPS might be lacking but still.

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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #20 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 9:14am	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 4:50am: Also thinking about a Tank (Ftr8/Monk6/Pal6) version. Does anyone know if the Ftr and Pal defensive stances stack or not? They don't.� Even if they did, you wouldn't have the AP to get both. Quote: Well I guess it boils down to how much time you spend beating up trash vs how much time you spend beating up bosses. More trash = woo woo. More bosses = DPS. The Radiance effect on Celesita causes blindness.� At least on paper it seems like a pretty damned good way to avoid crazy EE trash mob damage: DDO Wiki: The character cannot see. He takes a -2 penalty to Armor Class, loses his Dexterity bonus to AC (if any), moves and attacks at half speed, and takes a -4 penalty on Search checks and on most Strength- and Dexterity-based skill checks. All checks and activities that rely on vision (such as Spot checks) automatically fail. All opponents are considered to have total concealment (50% miss chance) to the blinded character. Kensei expands Celestia's crit range to 15-20.
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Dickbutt Titan Demolisher Offline Richard Butkus Posts: 386 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2011	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #21 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 9:45am	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 9:14am: Kensei expands Celestia's crit range to 15-20. Wasn't the 1 crit range from Kensei unaffected by Improved Crit? Did that change with the enhancement pass? At work at the moment. If it's not posted by tonight, I'll just check myself.
	« Last Edit: Aug 10^th, 2013 at 9:46am by Dickbutt »

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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #22 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 9:53am	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 9:14am: They don't.� Even if they did, you wouldn't have the AP to get both. I was afraid of that. Thanks.

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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #23 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 9:58am	Print Post
	LordPiglet wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 12:13am: so 8/6/6 with fighter/monk/ (ranger/druid/paly to taste) Any thoughts on the advantages of 6Druid over 6Ranger? My concept is a THW (Drow Greataxe) toon who uses Stunning Blow a lot.

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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What're the new quests like on EE? Reply #24 - Aug 10^th, 2013 at 10:11am	Print Post
	Dickbutt wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 9:45am: Wasn't the 1 crit range from Kensei unaffected by Improved Crit? Did that change with the enhancement pass? At work at the moment. If it's not posted by tonight, I'll just check myself. I verified it with Clever. Tier5 Kensei sets the crit range to 19-20 in the inspection tooltip. I also verified it critting on a roll of 17 against the kobolds in the dojo.


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