notajedi wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:12am:


I really have to wonder about Turbine's business plan. All of the above are a slap in the face to long term players. It is always easier (and cheaper) to retain existing customers than to attract new ones. That changes in the past year and the ones announced in the next couple of updates will almost entirely negative impacts on anyone that has been around a while.

I think the most egregious is the retroactive change to the ML of items. Case in point: I have a ML0 ring +5 strength +13 spell resistance or some such. It is a nice little perk to look forward to at the low levels for my TRing toons. I can't see how that or similar items are game breaking. That will be lost with the systematic change to how ML are calculated. It will have a negative impact on me (an existing customer) with no obvious advantage in attracting new customers.

higgildypiggildy wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 7:07pm:

I am going to be choked if stuff like my BtA ML1 three charge invis clicky goes up in level.

higgildypiggildy wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 7:07pm:


Yep. We all knew the ML0 rings would be changed at some point. But all the low level BTA stuff should be left alone. FoS has fixed something that really wasnt even broken.

Named items are often better for the level than random unbound items. All these end rewards were the same. Better BTA items than random unbound items.

And for the most part they were really only made super cool by Festival Icy Burst on the weapons, or using the BTA items for crafting.

Unless you were lucky like higgildy and had ML1 Invis clickies. A guy in my guild has a 3 charge ML1 Invis clicky. He is furious that he is going to lose it.

They break easy but you can always do Adamantine rituals on them. Then they last longer. I found I had to do this on my Sun Blades too - they were forever breaking after 2 dungeons meaning they were useless when chain farming.

The reason why the rings break is because they have ML0 item durability.

So just be thankful that when FoS fixes them for us, their durability will go up massively when they become ML 15 junk !

HairyO wrote on Aug 18^th, 2013 at 8:01pm:


BTA ML 9 would at east be better for my +6 stat items...with normal durability...  Game changer?  No.  Inconvenient resulting in more inventory mgt?  Yes.  Just what I need.  Glad I DIDN'T put rituals on them.

$5.00 says Barkabout is some undercover Turbine employee. 

Any guesses as to who?

Kimberlite wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:40pm:


But...but that's my favourite item in the whole game!

Cheara wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 12:37am:


..and your favorite item wasn't created by Feather.  Suck it.

Flav wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 2:59am:


There is simply no proof that such feedback has ever been presented to the Devs.

HairyO wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 6:58pm:


Proof of disagreement with the Devs are disappeared very fast usually, but there's still enough left on the official forums.

Episkopos wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 11:14am:

I'm speechless.

WTF, exactly, am I looking at here? I know it's FoS but what is he posing as??

Darkrok wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 2:23pm:


You can't craft clickies (though you should be able to).

It's pretty hilarious - though not at all surprising - how badly FOS underestimated the number of items with nonstandard MLs.