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Anyone tested DC casting on Lamania
Aug 12th, 2013 at 3:46pm
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Anyone given this a shot? I looked at it but didn't have my TR cache of goodies to give it a real go in new content.

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Reply #1 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 8:50am
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Only in the level 24 EEs.   It worked fine there, have not tested in the new shit.

But seeing CR73 trash mobs I'd be surprised if it does work.
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 1:48am
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Did the Wheloon chain on EE on my Wizard.  DC casting is alive and well in that chain at least.  54 (I think) enchant landed a hell of a lot and 62 necro was reliable enough to use.
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 2:09am
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Bigjunk wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 1:48am:
Did the Wheloon chain on EE on my Wizard.  DC casting is alive and well in that chain at least.  54 (I think) enchant landed a hell of a lot and 62 necro was reliable enough to use.


55 dc ein was raping everything. otoh 13 fvs/7 wiz shiradi is fun as fuck, unlimited spell points, tons of crits. did stormhorm chain on ee lvl 25 no pots.
  

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Reply #4 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 10:07am
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Bigjunk wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 1:48am:
Did the Wheloon chain on EE on my Wizard.  DC casting is alive and well in that chain at least.  54 (I think) enchant landed a hell of a lot and 62 necro was reliable enough to use.


at level 23 in magister a friend was hitting 61 enchant DCs with ship buffs/lvl 23 and under gear, and i dont think he was using a spell mastery item for 2 moire dc, and when he gets more end game gear he could prob reach about 63-65,......so I don't think DC casting is quite as fucked anymore.
  

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Reply #5 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 4:43pm
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Cripey wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 2:09am:
55 dc ein was raping everything. otoh 13 fvs/7 wiz shiradi is fun as fuck, unlimited spell points, tons of crits. did stormhorm chain on ee lvl 25 no pots.


Problem is, how do you level that to 20  Undecided
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 4:47pm
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tachyon wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 4:43pm:
Problem is, how do you level that to 20  Undecided


20 wf sorc->20 lr heart->13 fvs/7 wiz Wink
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Reply #7 - Aug 21st, 2013 at 3:13am
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tachyon wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 4:43pm:
Problem is, how do you level that to 20  Undecided


BLADE BARRIER

if you have it by lvl 12-14 the rest of heroic till 20 is a joke
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 21st, 2013 at 5:34am
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BLADE BARRIER

if you have it by lvl 12-14 the rest of heroic till 20 is a joke



I thought about this... I'm just afraid of level 16 on... It might be fun to try though, as I would prefer to save my +20 heart.
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 22nd, 2013 at 7:15pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 1:48am:
Did the Wheloon chain on EE on my Wizard.  DC casting is alive and well in that chain at least.  54 (I think) enchant landed a hell of a lot and 62 necro was reliable enough to use.


The new enhancements does look like it has toned down +spell power in favor of crits and DC.
Is it worth changing a 20 air savant into 2 Druid to pick up some season +spell power or go 2 pally instead (just focus on crits and saves)?
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 22nd, 2013 at 7:16pm
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tachyon wrote on Aug 21st, 2013 at 5:34am:
I thought about this... I'm just afraid of level 16 on... It might be fun to try though, as I would prefer to save my +20 heart.


Afraid of what? I'm sure you'll have metas to buff BB.
  
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Reply #11 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 9:15pm
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BLADE BARRIER

if you have it by lvl 12-14 the rest of heroic till 20 is a joke


Yep. Either Bladebarrier or DBF are all you need to level at really high speed. This build gets one of them.

This build will suck when you are levelling off destinies though.
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Reply #12 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 12:21am
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DC 66 Necro in EE Stormhorns sucks donkey balls even with Enervation+Energy Drain prepping Finger of Death.  Too many high fort mobs: giants, orc berserkers, gnoll skirmishers and ice elementals.
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:12am
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Carpone wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 12:21am:
DC 66 Necro in EE Stormhorns sucks donkey balls even with Enervation+Energy Drain prepping Finger of Death.  Too many high fort mobs: giants, orc berserkers, gnoll skirmishers and ice elementals.


What game are you playing?

Yes, some targets have insane save and you're just not gonna finger but suck donkey-balls it does not.
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:58am
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Bigjunk wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:12am:
What game are you playing?

Yes, some targets have insane save and you're just not gonna finger but suck donkey-balls it does not.

If 118 SP total for three single-target spells can't kill a mob, then it's fail.

It also makes me weep for my DC 69 Evocation Favored Soul, who can't kill Stormhorns mobs reliably with Implosion on EE.
  
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Carpone wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:58am:
If 118 SP total for three single-target spells can't kill a mob, then it's fail.


I don't disagree with you, but for MOST mob die a lot easier than that.  SOME have prohibitively high fort saves and it doesn't bother me that I can't finger everything.

What's annoying is some mobs like the assassins don't have a weak save.  I understand them having high reflex saves but high fort and will seems stupid.



  
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Reply #16 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 11:08am
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If you want to DC cast, go roll a monk. I've been watching DC monks waltz through EE Storm Horns with EIN and QP.
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 11:24am
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cdr wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 11:08am:
If you want to DC cast, go roll a monk. I've been watching DC monks waltz through EE Storm Horns with EIN and QP.


QP is so awesome now, doing the Glacier quest last night with my guildie's monk getting the EE Ice Elementals every time after my Nightmares proc'd the woowoo twice.

How long before it gets nerfed?  I give it a few months.
  
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Reply #18 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:44pm
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Carpone wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:58am:
If 118 SP total for three single-target spells can't kill a mob, then it's fail.

It also makes me weep for my DC 69 Evocation Favored Soul, who can't kill Stormhorns mobs reliably with Implosion on EE.


I disagree.  You can't expect FoD to work on High fort melee mobs in EE content.  I can FoD the casters without prep with reliability and can get the shadar Kai assassins too on my DC caster.  With prep those mobs are cake.  I don't expect you to be able to get the beserkers.  If you could then instakill would rule the day like it did back when they first removed the Epic Wards.  Now, the berserkers are able to be danced and held pretty easy. 

Use the right tool for the mob.  Not everything is a nail.
  
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Reply #19 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:46pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 11:24am:
QP is so awesome now, doing the Glacier quest last night with my guildie's monk getting the EE Ice Elementals every time after my Nightmares proc'd the woowoo twice.

How long before it gets nerfed?  I give it a few months.


QP went from something that was worthless after the Vale to being end game.  Love it.  And it works armed.  That's nuts, but whatever.
  
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Reply #20 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 12:47pm
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Carpone wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:58am:
It also makes me weep for my DC 69 Evocation Favored Soul, who can't kill Stormhorns mobs reliably with Implosion on EE.

So what are you going to do with that character of yours ?
Or just lost hope ?
Do you think pursuing evo on 18/2 clonk ( in gmof, twf feats etc ) with maybe 63 - 65 evo would be stupid ?
  
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Reply #21 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 1:25pm
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Wipe wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 12:47pm:
So what are you going to do with that character of yours ?
Or just lost hope ?

For now I'm shelving my 9-past-lives-with-all-EDs-capped FvS.  I'll revisit the FvS once War Priest is announced.  If War Priest fails to deliver, then I'll either LR it into an 18 Druid/2 Monk Shiradi, or 13 FvS/7 Sorc Shiradi. 

I have two melee toons who are very capable, so I'll be focusing on them for a while. 

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Do you think pursuing evo on 18/2 clonk ( in gmof, twf feats etc ) with maybe 63 - 65 evo would be stupid ?

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Reply #22 - Aug 31st, 2013 at 2:41pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 9:07am:
I don't disagree with you, but for MOST mob die a lot easier than that.  SOME have prohibitively high fort saves and it doesn't bother me that I can't finger everything.


We need new mobs that melees can't do shit about.  Let's force more grouping.  Every DC caster should obviously be running with melees who woo-woo for them too.  (Honestly, I think the folks who are pretending that DC casting is viable in EE Stormhorns are in such groups.  Their incompetence is being masked by their buddies, but they'll never admit this on the forums.)
  

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Reply #23 - Aug 31st, 2013 at 4:06pm
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I've grouped with a couple necro/enchant DC casters in EE Storm Horns/Wheloon. They are definitely not soloers as they can't instakill EE Storm Horns melee and can't do much at all about immune stuff like shadows/shades. But they do fine in groups. They can instakill casters and hold/dance the other trash. And even if Wail/Circle isn't taking out everything, it'll take out several guys.

I don't think DC casters are ideal at all, but they do OK. They were actually crushing the kill count vs my shiradi in EE Wheloon, but not Storm Horns.
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Reply #24 - Aug 31st, 2013 at 5:03pm
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IMARANGER wrote on Aug 31st, 2013 at 2:41pm:
We need new mobs that melees can't do shit about.  Let's force more grouping.  Every DC caster should obviously be running with melees who woo-woo for them too.  (Honestly, I think the folks who are pretending that DC casting is viable in EE Stormhorns are in such groups.  Their incompetence is being masked by their buddies, but they'll never admit this on the forums.)


You need to start running with better people.
  
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