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Re: Anyone tested DC casting on Lamania
Reply #25 - Sep 1st, 2013 at 3:20pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Aug 31st, 2013 at 5:03pm:
You need to start running with better people.


You need to stop being a little fanboi who pretends that DC casters are alright because you run with teams of people who do your neg-leveling for you?
  
OnePercenter wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 5:32pm:
I agree with 0bama...


OnePercenter wrote on Feb 9th, 2015 at 8:18am:
Not saying that others weren't better, just that quantity does not always indicate quality...  I mean, look at my post count...
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Re: Anyone tested DC casting on Lamania
Reply #26 - Sep 1st, 2013 at 5:27pm
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IMARANGER wrote on Sep 1st, 2013 at 3:20pm:
You need to stop being a little fanboi who pretends that DC casters are alright because you run with teams of people who do your neg-leveling for you?


1. Go fuck yourself.

2.  DC casters are fine.  Are they god-mode?  Absolutely not.

3. Your mother's a whore.

4.  Have a nice day.
  
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Reply #27 - Sep 1st, 2013 at 11:31pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Sep 1st, 2013 at 5:27pm:
4.  Have a nice day.


This is so fucking offensive.  Why would you tell me how to have my day?
  
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Re: Anyone tested DC casting on Lamania
Reply #28 - Sep 2nd, 2013 at 3:48am
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We just need moar ShadeArr-Kai Assrapists. They are easilly instakilled yet rape melee so consistently that it's not even funny.
  
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Re: Anyone tested DC casting on Lamania
Reply #29 - Sep 2nd, 2013 at 5:04am
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How would you guys fix DC casting?  Since it’s obvious Turbine can’t seem to get out of the “OHMAHGERD SCPHELLS SHEUD ANLY WERK WHIN A MERB REWELLS AH WAN!!!” mindset.

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What about replacing the “Spell level” variable with “Caster level”?  This would allow Spell Level capped casters (ex Artificer, Bard.) to cast more effectively.  And it would encourage arcanes/divines to stay in their epic destiny sphere without actively nerfing Shiradi Champion.

  • Spell Focus Increases Caster level and maximum Caster level by 1.
  • Greater Spell Focus increases Caster Level and Maximum Caster Level by 1. (Cumulative +2 with Spell Focus)
  • Epic Spell Focus increases Caster Level and Maximum Caster Level by 2. (Cumulative +4 with Spell Focus/Greater Spell Focus)
  • Heighten adds +10% to the DC.  (Heighten enhancements could increase this further.)
  • All Past Life feats continue to just add +1’s to whatever schools they currently affect.
  • Bad guys are capped out at caster level 25.  (They could get the same feats players have to increase it as well.) I think it would only be fair, since Turbine isn’t interested in increasing our casting ability beyond that point.
  • Minion debuff goes away.
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Re: Anyone tested DC casting on Lamania
Reply #30 - Sep 2nd, 2013 at 11:42am
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Compare the difference between Stunning Fist DCs and caster DCs and you'll see what needs to be adjusted.

Stunning Fist:
10 base
14 Half character level
10 item
05 mastery item
06 Legendary Tactics twist
03 Fighter Tactics
20 WIS bonus (50 WIS)
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68 DC
03 Fighter past lives (optional)
03 Racial Tactics (optional)
03 GMoF (optional)
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77 DC optimal, and it can be applied twice due to Doublestrike.  Only requires Monk level 1 and Fighter level 1.

Divine Evocation DC:
10 base
09 Heighten
05 Item
02 Mastery item
03 Magister twist
02 Draconic twist
03 Epic Evocation Focus
01 Angel of Vengeance Tier 5
30 WIS bonus (70 WIS)
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65
03 Sorcerer past life
01 Past Life: Arcane Initiate
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69 Evocation DC. Requires enough caster levels to acquire 9th level spells (17 for Druid/Cleric; 18 for FvS).  Also requires tier5 enhancement.

Arcane Necro DC about the same as Evocation DC, once you account for the additional DCs from enhancement trees, and slightly higher INT.
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Re: Anyone tested DC casting on Lamania
Reply #31 - Sep 2nd, 2013 at 12:01pm
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You are wrong Carpone, Maddmatt's  50 assassinate works in u 19, therefore it has to be true.
I also want server with 70 stun monks, not some shit fire stance halforc str retards.
Anyway, I TRed to cleric, should get 67 evo, I am full of optimism, will see how that goes.
  
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Re: Anyone tested DC casting on Lamania
Reply #32 - Sep 2nd, 2013 at 2:10pm
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NOTdarth wrote on Sep 2nd, 2013 at 3:48am:
We just need moar ShadeArr-Kai Assrapists. They are easilly instakilled yet rape melee so consistently that it's not even funny.


Overwhelming force FTW.   

A few of us did a BYOH EE WGU pug on Saturday night with 5 FoTW melees in the group and they really weren't an issue.
  
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Re: Anyone tested DC casting on Lamania
Reply #33 - Sep 2nd, 2013 at 2:44pm
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Carpone wrote on Sep 2nd, 2013 at 11:42am:
Compare the difference between Stunning Fist DCs and caster DCs and you'll see what needs to be adjusted.

Stunning Fist:
03 Fighter Tactics
Only requires Monk level 1 and Fighter level 1.



The above requires 2 Fighter levels, FYI.
  
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Re: Anyone tested DC casting on Lamania
Reply #34 - Sep 2nd, 2013 at 5:31pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Sep 1st, 2013 at 5:27pm:
1. Go fuck yourself.

2.  DC casters are fine.  Are they god-mode?  Absolutely not.

3. Your mother's a whore.

4.  Have a nice day.


Ok Thrudh.
  
OnePercenter wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 5:32pm:
I agree with 0bama...


OnePercenter wrote on Feb 9th, 2015 at 8:18am:
Not saying that others weren't better, just that quantity does not always indicate quality...  I mean, look at my post count...
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