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Groo The Wanderer Titan Demolisher Offline did I err? Posts: 312 Location: The Land of Rape and Honey Joined: May 28^th, 2013 Gender:	End game going to Level 30 Aug 12^th, 2013 at 6:41pm	Print Post
	Here's the post So By end of next year level 30 and apparently at least 1 Dracolich based RAID. . . . . Fuck me .... they really don't get it do they.

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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #1 - Aug 12^th, 2013 at 7:11pm	Print Post
	I was figuring level 30 was where they would stop for a while. Hopefully they'll keep that as the cap and fill in content and fixes. I once ran a PnP 30th level Epic campaign which went pretty well. I will probably get most of my toons up to 30th level and run the endgame for a while and then quit DDO by the 10th anniversary of the game in Feb. 2016. I think 10 years and 30th level seems like a good stopping point.
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AnalFissure Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 178 Joined: Jun 20^th, 2013	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #2 - Aug 12^th, 2013 at 8:38pm	Print Post
	Translation to "leave it there for an extended time" means "We'll pull all the real coders over to Infinite Crisis and leave Melange and 2 monkeys to make packs twice a year". Mothballing it like Asheron's Call.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #3 - Aug 12^th, 2013 at 10:20pm	Print Post
	AnalFissure wrote on Aug 12^th, 2013 at 8:38pm: Translation to "leave it there for an extended time" means "We'll pull all the real coders over to Infinite Crisis and leave Melange and 2 monkeys to make packs twice a year". Mothballing it like Asheron's Call. Would probably be preferable to the continual fucking with things just to fuck with them that's the status quo now.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9984 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #4 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 2:05am	Print Post
	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Aug 12^th, 2013 at 6:41pm: Here's the post So By end of next year level 30 and apparently at least 1 Dracolich based RAID. . . . . Fuck me .... they really don't get it do they. Was to be expected when they went above 20. Now we have one year and 4 month to cap our characters. The raise to 30 was more or less mandatory, as Epic is LVL 20 to 30 in D&D 3.5. Now if only they could concentrate on content adding, fixing fubared things ( we can help make an exhaustive list here of all the things that needs fixing ), and stop breaking things that don't need to be broken.

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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #5 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 4:51am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 2:05am: we can help make an exhaustive list here of all the things that needs fixing I LOL'd.


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umeannothing Stormreaver Piker Offline Wall building professional! Posts: 538 Location: your head Joined: Dec 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #6 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 11:31am	Print Post
	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Aug 12^th, 2013 at 6:41pm: Here's the post So By end of next year level 30 and apparently at least 1 Dracolich based RAID. . . . . Fuck me .... they really don't get it do they. OH BOY!!!! Another expansion for next year! I tried to buy MoTU once. The morons emailed me explicit instructions to follow to apply the code on a friday evening just fine. True to Turbine form, the emailed instructions in no way matched their "myaccount" choices on the "myaccount" page. After trying in-game with friends to apply the code, spending the weekend googling it, I called in the following monday and asked for my money back. That was close to a year ago now, I wonder if they ever bothered to fix that? Tossing turbine a bone here: I have never had a problem getting my money back from Turbine when I phone CS.

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Groo The Wanderer Titan Demolisher Offline did I err? Posts: 312 Location: The Land of Rape and Honey Joined: May 28^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #7 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 6:40pm	Print Post
	30 isn't a surprise really. The idea of just 1 RAID coming out is kinda lame though. Also the idea of a cap raise without it being an "expansion" is probably Naive so basically we are going to get a set of quests (I suspect won't be FTP) and my guess is that will be it. Makes me sad to see the game falling so hard, seems the more they try to "monetize" the game the less money then end-up with in their pockets.

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Hordo High Rabbi Offline Le Douchebag Posts: 2405 Location: Cordova, Tennessee Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #8 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 7:33pm	Print Post
	umeannothing wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 11:31am: OH BOY!!!! Another� expansion for next year! I tried to buy MoTU once. The morons emailed me explicit instructions to follow to apply the code on a friday evening just fine. True to Turbine form, the emailed instructions in no way matched their "myaccount" choices on the "myaccount" page. After trying in-game with friends to apply the code, spending the weekend googling it, I called in the following monday and asked for my money back. That was close to a year ago now, I wonder if they ever bothered to fix that? Tossing turbine a bone here: I have never had a problem getting my money back from Turbine when I phone CS. My experience was opposite. I had expected the email to be full of no help at all, but the instructions were perfect. Was exactly what they said in the email. Maybe you just got screwed.

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OnePercenter Advocatus Diaboli Offline Ants Eat Dead Grasshoppers Posts: 9985 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #9 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 7:54pm	Print Post
	Hordo wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 7:33pm: My experience was opposite.� I had expected the email to be full of no help at all, but the instructions were perfect.� Was exactly what they said in the email.� Maybe you just got screwed. Or it was user error. Mine was perfect too.

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Memnir Shroud Slacker Offline A little bit different Posts: 1149 Location: Seattle Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #10 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 7:56pm	Print Post
	They haven't gotten it for at least two years now. No signs of them having any sudden epiphanies, either. The downward spiral will continue, and the game will just get more and more bogged down by the people making it following their whimsies in lieu of solid game/quest design. In my thinking, DDO is following pen and paper D&D's arc pretty well. It was a small, niche product early on - but had a core following. Made some changes, and got more popular for a while. Got sold to another, larger company. Became shit. WotC are trying (badly, imho) to pull D&D out of the crapfest that was most of the 4th Ed. Oddly enough, DDO went to shit while incorporating more and more 4th Ed. ideas and practices. DDO needs to get back to what made the game great - but I honestly think their current Dev team is incapable of that task, and too mired in hubris to admit what they are doing has been failing and will continue to do so unless they make changes.

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9984 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #11 - Aug 14^th, 2013 at 3:11am	Print Post
	Memnir wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 7:56pm: DDO needs to get back to what made the game great - but I honestly think their current Dev team is incapable of that task, and too mired in hubris to admit what they are doing has been failing and will continue to do so unless they make changes. The only change worth to be made is to fire everybody except the QA Kobolds ( MajMal, Kookie and Squeak ) and Rowan ( he is too new at his job... for now ), and make sure the new devs knows how to follow a strict development plan and that any dev pet project will be killed on sight.

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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3481 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #12 - Aug 14^th, 2013 at 7:58am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Aug 14^th, 2013 at 3:11am: and that any dev pet project will be killed on sight. Nuke them from orbit to be sure!


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umeannothing Stormreaver Piker Offline Wall building professional! Posts: 538 Location: your head Joined: Dec 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #13 - Aug 14^th, 2013 at 11:37am	Print Post
	Hordo wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 7:33pm: My experience was opposite.� I had expected the email to be full of no help at all, but the instructions were perfect.� Was exactly what they said in the email.� Maybe you just got screwed. Or maybe they just fixed the shit. Having to give refunds over stupid shit like that tends to get things fixed quickly. I was wondering if they fixed it or not. I am frankly shocked they actually fixed something.

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GooFY Abbot Raider Offline Just one of those days... Posts: 771 Location: Washington State Joined: Dec 12^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: End game going to Level 30 Reply #14 - Aug 14^th, 2013 at 3:29pm	Print Post
	Memnir wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 7:56pm: DDO needs to get back to what made the game great - but I honestly think their current Dev team is incapable of that task, and too mired in hubris to admit what they are doing has been failing and will continue to do so unless they make changes. That's funny - I was wondering how many pages it would take me write an essay on "What is going wrong with DDO?".� Then I thought about boiling that down to just one page or even one paragraph.� But then why not pare it down to a top-10 list, or even just the item at the top of that list?� Or how about just one word: Arrogance. Hubris is quite a fine contender too.


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