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Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:57am
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I don't know if this was already discussed and I missed it, but:

http://www.ddo.com/en/limitedtime-5tomes
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 12:08pm
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Fuck. It was only a matter of time I suppose.
  

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Reply #2 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 12:13pm
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Heh. Surprise, surprise.
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 12:43pm
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Guess that means +6/5->6 in loot tables.
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 1:19pm
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If I had any faith left in the Dev team, I'd be surprised.
If I had any respect left for Turbine, I'd be angry.
If I had any fucks left to give, I'd give a fuck.


But with no faith, no respect, and zero fucks given - I can't say I'm shocked at all. They need to wring every last cent out of the rats before they flee the sinking ship.
  

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Reply #5 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 1:31pm
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I've been kind of LOLing at the fact that all the U19 builds being posted are assuming +3 tomes. Not even +4, +3. That Vader build wastes a levelup and a feat so it can take Epic Toughness with its +3 tome.
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 1:45pm
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There is no line Turbine will not cross if they can smell a dollar.

And yes, I will be buying some.
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 1:49pm
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As an evil overlord I am not shocked by this, however I have to ask, what about the bad guys don't they need more tomes and abilities too, all of you get new enhancements and epic destinies and what do the bad guys get? Oh boy more hps and suddenly that giants club hits for 300, and wolves now have friggin laser beams attached to their teeth and bite for 300 too.

All I'm asking, is for every player a mob kills it should go into a pool of enhancements for the baddies to spend to get better at killing the good guys.

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Reply #8 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 1:54pm
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Memnir wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 1:19pm:
If I had any faith left in the Dev team, I'd be surprised.
If I had any respect left for Turbine, I'd be angry.
If I had any fucks left to give, I'd give a fuck.


But with no faith, no respect, and zero fucks given - I can't say I'm shocked at all. They need to wring every last cent out of the rats before they flee the sinking ship.


Same. Heh, I remember when +5 tomes were a myth. Just riding the handbasket to hell at this point. Wooh!

  

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Reply #9 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 2:25pm
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Bowserkoopa wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 1:49pm:
As an evil overlord I am not shocked by this, however I have to ask, what about the bad guys don't they need more tomes and abilities too, all of you get new enhancements and epic destinies and what do the bad guys get? Oh boy more hps and suddenly that giants club hits for 300, and wolves now have friggin laser beams attached to their teeth and bite for 300 too.

All I'm asking, is for every player a mob kills it should go into a pool of enhancements for the baddies to spend to get better at killing the good guys.

Bowserkoopa,

Yes I'll probably buy a +5 tome, damn you turbine.


Can I be CR70 with 10,000 HP?
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 2:40pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 2:25pm:
Can I be CR70 with 10,000 HP?

Sure!! You've already got the right AI to be a mob.
  

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Reply #11 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 2:54pm
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I still think stat tomes are one of the least game breaking aspects to the game.  People make a big deal out of them, but they really have a very small impact overall. 

But, when +4 tomes were put in the store a year ago they had been available in game from ToD for about 2 or 3 years.  I had them on several toons, but no toon with more than 3.

The +5's are new as of last year and I've only even gotten 2, total. 

I guess it's a factor of the level cap going up by 8 levels in 14 months where as it went up by a total of 4 levels in the prior 4 years. 

  
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Reply #12 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 2:59pm
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Interesting timing BTW.  No advance mention.  No fanfare.  Just put it out there on release day while everyone is thinking about the enhancement pass. 

On another day it would have been a huge deal.  Today, I think it's taking a back seat.
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 3:00pm
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If you're surprised +5 tomes are in the store, then I have no words for you.
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 3:01pm
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Asheras wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 2:54pm:
I still think stat tomes are one of the least game breaking aspects to the game.  People make a big deal out of them, but they really have a very small impact overall. 

But, when +4 tomes were put in the store a year ago they had been available in game from ToD for about 2 or 3 years.  I had them on several toons, but no toon with more than 3.

The +5's are new as of last year and I've only even gotten 2, total. 

I guess it's a factor of the level cap going up by 8 levels in 14 months where as it went up by a total of 4 levels in the prior 4 years. 



Going from +8 to +11 items is a bigger deal.
  
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Reply #15 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 3:01pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 2:25pm:
Can I be CR70 with 10,000 HP?


We probably are beyond CR70 at this point considering we're expected to kill these things in droves. And with self healing and other things I'm sure some mobs think we have well over 10,000 hps.

So yes you can be but your not good enough to be a mob, most 6 year olds could out play the AI of the mobs in this game.

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Reply #16 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 3:05pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 3:01pm:
Going from +8 to +11 items is a bigger deal.

At most that's a +2 DC benefit for spells and tactics, and +2 hit/dmg with melee.  It's not that big of a deal.  When you consider how much EE trashmob CR jumped between Highroad and Stormhorns, players are further behind the curve now.
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 6:26pm
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Memnir wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 1:19pm:
They need to wring every last cent out of the rats before they flee the sinking ship.


They will keep ddo running as long as it is profitable. They have already mentioned end of development so it wont be long till end of new content, maybe a year or 2.

It was a great run for ddo. 2006 - 2011. The abomination called ddo from 2012 - current is not the same game.
  
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Reply #18 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 6:31pm
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It's more then true what Memnir said, turning a good thing into such a commercialized cesspool, shame.
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At least they drop reasonably often in game unlike the other pay to cheat shit.

  

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whothefuckami wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 8:52pm:
At least they drop reasonably often in game unlike the other pay to cheat shit.




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Reply #22 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 9:19am
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Carpone wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 3:05pm:
At most that's a +2 DC benefit for spells and tactics, and +2 hit/dmg with melee.  It's not that big of a deal.  When you consider how much EE trashmob CR jumped between Highroad and Stormhorns, players are further behind the curve now.


The mobs in the new EE content have lower saves and lower HP than EE GH mobs. There are typically more of them. Except for 2 of them, the new quests are all easier than EE GH quests. Those ones are harder mainly due to instant red alert, even though we only had 4 people in the quest.
  
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Reply #23 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 9:36am
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Carpone wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 3:05pm:
At most that's a +2 DC benefit for spells and tactics, and +2 hit/dmg with melee.  It's not that big of a deal.  When you consider how much EE trashmob CR jumped between Highroad and Stormhorns, players are further behind the curve now.


I wouldn't even say it's EE.  I was running EH friends in low places just to test some stuff on my under geared monkcher and the end boss was at 56k hp.  This shit just bores me to tears, it was almost no challenge, just a little kiting.  Some of the other fights for the crests were better thanks to new spawns dropping and a fair amount of enemies, but just beating on a sack of hit points is meh.
  
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Reply #24 - Aug 24th, 2013 at 7:50am
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Asheras wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:57am:
I don't know if this was already discussed and I missed it, but:

http://www.ddo.com/en/limitedtime-5tomes


Does that mean +6 tomes are on the way?
  
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