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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	This new loot gen stuff Aug 20^th, 2013 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	Is totally nuts. It's an order of magnitude better. How much MoTU or eGH gear (not including weapons/shields) will you be using at level 28? I'm not finding much of anything.


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tachyon Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 369 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2013	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #1 - Aug 20^th, 2013 at 6:06pm	Print Post
	Can I see some examples?


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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #2 - Aug 20^th, 2013 at 6:09pm	Print Post
	Doom!


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whothefuckami Stormreaver Piker Offline Oppan Gangnam Style Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #3 - Aug 20^th, 2013 at 7:22pm	Print Post
	tachyon wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 6:06pm: Can I see some examples? Bracers, Str 9, Seeker 9, ML 27 or lower with Masterful/Wonderous craftsmanship Rapier, 2.5[w], +8, 6d4 holy damage, 12d6 heartseeker damage on crits

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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #4 - Aug 20^th, 2013 at 7:57pm	Print Post
	There are very few things that will make it onto a character with topend gear.� From what I've seen so far... Melee: Skullduggery Kit: 10% Dodge permutation, 50 HP or Seeker X version. Lootgen ring or cloak: +8 Deadly of +8 Accuracy with a yellow slot (ML27).� Mastercrafted ML28 should be +9 to both. In addition to the above, on my AA: Goggles: +11 WIS lootgen On my evoker FvS: Skullduggery Kit (10% Dodge) Sage's Necklace (Evocation +5 DC, Spellcraft +15) Goggles: +11 WIS lootgen On my Pale Master: Nether Orb (+5 Necro DC) Lootgen +11 INT Maybe the 10% Dodge Skullduggery Kit All the other EE/ML28 gear is underwhelming.� That's three pieces per archetype I'm replacing.� I'm still using plenty of EE/ML25 gear from GH/Highroad and raid loot.� If you're replacing most of your gear, then you didn't have much to start with.
	« Last Edit: Aug 20^th, 2013 at 8:30pm by Carpone »

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Crunch ButtSteak Stormreaver Piker Offline Fer teh lolz Posts: 506 Joined: Jul 19^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #5 - Aug 20^th, 2013 at 8:07pm	Print Post
	Shadehater wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 6:09pm: Doom! DooohoooHOOOOoooohmmm!

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ThatLukeGuy Waterworks Kobold Offline Happy little trees Posts: 124 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #6 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:06am	Print Post
	The only items that make me sad are my missing Blue-Gold shiny kits on any of my bladeforged. bah..


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9984 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #7 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 2:46am	Print Post
	+8 STR ring of GFL ML 23 ( as reward from an EH LOB ) Even without going into LVL 25+ lootgen it seems they have done something with lootgen and now we get useful items out of old stuff. ( STR and GLF are uncommon on rings, and getting both on the same ring is... quite rare )
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aDifferentHandle Abbot Raider Offline omg, that's the funky shit Posts: 996 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #8 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 6:40am	Print Post
	Rings with Colorless + Yellow slots. Rings with Green Slots. Deadly Goggles of Accuracy makes Dream Visor look bad, and is also available with Resistance instead of Accuracy. I haven't seen the exact item, but ml 23 +7 damage, +7 resistance seems possible.

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spathic Stocky Greenis Offline Taunting the stupid since before you were born. Posts: 1623 Location: Shenandoah valley Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #9 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 7:03am	Print Post
	+8 Wis necklace of natural armor +6 with a colorless slot.

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Mokune Shroud Slacker Offline Gimped Hairless Ape Posts: 1115 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2011	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #10 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 7:10am	Print Post
	Ran a couple of the Wheloon Prison Quests this morning, checking out the scenery...getting the last few PDK favor to unlock the conflux set (won't use much till I get a Twilight though). Broke a barrel and got Wis +8 Goggles of Resistance +7, Masterfully Crafted with Yellow Augment Slot....(my Concop is Jealous...)

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Sindarin Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 36 Joined: Jun 20^th, 2013	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #11 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 7:28am	Print Post
	aDifferentHandle wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 6:40am: Rings with Colorless + Yellow slots. Rings with Green Slots. Deadly Goggles of Accuracy makes Dream Visor look bad, and is also available with Resistance instead of Accuracy. I haven't seen the exact item, but ml 23 +7 damage, +7 resistance seems possible. It was ML17, but I got a ring last night with Deadly 5 & +4 Resistances. No curse or master craft on it.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #12 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 7:55am	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 7:57pm: There are very few things that will make it onto a character with topend gear.� From what I've seen so far... Melee: Skullduggery Kit: 10% Dodge permutation, 50 HP or Seeker X version. Lootgen ring or cloak: +8 Deadly of +8 Accuracy with a yellow slot (ML27).� Mastercrafted ML28 should be +9 to both. In addition to the above, on my AA: Goggles: +11 WIS lootgen On my evoker FvS: Skullduggery Kit (10% Dodge) Sage's Necklace (Evocation +5 DC, Spellcraft +15) Goggles: +11 WIS lootgen On my Pale Master: Nether Orb (+5 Necro DC) Lootgen +11 INT Maybe the 10% Dodge Skullduggery Kit All the other EE/ML28 gear is underwhelming.� That's three pieces per archetype I'm replacing.� I'm still using plenty of EE/ML25 gear from GH/Highroad and raid loot.� If you're replacing most of your gear, then you didn't have much to start with. I'm still trying to figure it out, but on my monk I'd like to get Str +10, Con +10, Wis +10, Deadly, Dodge, Seeker, Riposte, Natural Armor, Resistance. All at levels well above what is available on the eGH and MoTU loot. The Speed XV would be nice too.


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kierg10 Shroud Slacker Offline Cuddly wuddly cats Posts: 1039 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #13 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:10am	Print Post
	someone linked ML:9 goggles with deadly V. So the EXACT SAME bonus to damage as dream visor, but 16 levels earlier, and much easier to get. One update to nerf dream visor to the ground, and make it a worthless piece of shit item (And let's be honest if you were wearing it for the yellow augment slot, the 20 spot, or the +5 to hit you were probably doing it wrong.)

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Luxgolg Shroud Slacker Offline So many bugs Posts: 1221 Location: Over there Joined: Oct 2^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #14 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:54am	Print Post
	This is DDO 2.0 now fuckers. Feather has had a very long time to dip his cack in the database and smear the results across your face. MMM salty goodness

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #15 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 1:36pm	Print Post
	I don't get why they are bringing some very powerful stuff down alot (the deadly for example) but still having this stupid curve on stat points. +6 at level 11 but then only +7 and +8 up through 24 and then you can get to +11 by 28. The huge gap from 11 to 25 is odd, especially given the huge uptick from 26 thru 28. Why not fix the curve overall, including the MoTU and eGH loot? Retroactively make anything ML 17 a +7 bonus. ML 21 +8, ML 23 +9, ML 25 +10, ML 27 +11. That would make dun'robars +8 items. Most EN/EH loot in GH +9, with the Raid loot and EE stuff +10. Would have fixed a lot of the loot problems. The way they chose to handle it is just baffling to me. An ML 25 raid loot item with +8 stat and there are ML 26 loot gen items with +10. You can get Masterful Craftsmanship loot gen items with +9 stats with a lower ML than the eGH named EE or FoT loot.


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Luxgolg Shroud Slacker Offline So many bugs Posts: 1221 Location: Over there Joined: Oct 2^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #16 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 1:37pm	Print Post
	LEVEL 4 DEATHBLOCK FTW ... Thats just crazy now

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LafoMamone Waterworks Kobold Offline Feather of Sun's Chief Muse Posts: 117 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2013	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #17 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 1:45pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 1:36pm: I don't get why they are bringing some very powerful stuff down alot (the deadly for example) but still having this stupid curve on stat points.� +6 at level 11 but then only +7 and +8 up through 24 and then you can get to +11 by 28.� The huge gap from 11 to 25 is odd, especially given the huge uptick from 26 thru 28.� Why not fix the curve overall, including the MoTU and eGH loot?� Retroactively make anything ML 17 a +7 bonus.� ML 21 +8, ML 23 +9, ML 25 +10, ML 27 +11.� That would make dun'robars +8 items.� Most EN/EH loot in GH +9, with the Raid loot and EE stuff +10.� Would have fixed a lot of the loot problems.� The way they chose to handle it is just baffling to me.� An ML 25 raid loot item with +8 stat and there are ML 26 loot gen items with +10.� You can get Masterful Craftsmanship loot gen items with +9 stats with a lower ML than the eGH named EE or FoT loot.� � All of this would imply that they sit down and draw up a plan, have internal meetings, ask for player feedback, and thoroughly test before finalizing...like any rational game developer who cares about the quality of their product. Have you forgotten who the developer of this game is?
	« Last Edit: Aug 21^st, 2013 at 1:46pm by LafoMamone »

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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #18 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 4:37pm	Print Post
	Luxgolg wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 1:37pm: LEVEL 4 DEATHBLOCK FTW ... Thats just crazy now And not needed that early. I've never used it before level 9 when farming Xorian Cipher, and the mid-level Silver Flame Necklace works nicely.


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Brac Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 128 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2013	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #19 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:25pm	Print Post
	The Deadly prefix to me seems so overpowered that I campare it to fortification. Every character HAS to have it. Now really only a character that hits anything with a weapon needs it, but that is still a big deal to make an effect that EVERY melee now needs. Some items I pulled: Ring Deadly 9, Archmagi Helm Deadly 9, Accurate 8 Helm Deadly 9, Protection 8 Cloak Deadly 8, Protection 8 Bought off auction house: Goggles Deadly 9, intimdate +19 Helm Deadly 8, Natural Armor 8, colorless slot, yellow slot It seems the prefix is plentiful, but it should be since you will now expect every melee at endgame to have Deadly 8 or 9.


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GooFY Abbot Raider Offline Just one of those days... Posts: 771 Location: Washington State Joined: Dec 12^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #20 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 7:00pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 4:37pm: And not needed that early.� I've never used it before level 9 when farming Xorian Cipher, and the mid-level Silver Flame Necklace works nicely. That seems like a good option. For my cleric and FvS lives I used the Sacred set from the Red Fens. I hate that the items are BTC and not BTA, but the items are easy to get and the helm provides Deathblock at level 7 IIRC.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9984 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #21 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 1:59am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 2:46am: +8 STR ring of GFL ML 23 ( as reward from an EH LOB ) Even without going into LVL 25+ lootgen it seems they have done something with lootgen and now we get useful items out of old stuff. ( STR and GLF are uncommon on rings, and getting both on the same ring is... quite rare ) I forgot that the ring also has a Colorless Slot... and is ML24 in fact.

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Bleach Korthos Resident Offline Totally indifferent. Posts: 15 Joined: Jun 19^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #22 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 4:40am	Print Post
	Two pretty cool lowbie items I found running a +2 gem... ML:7 Dodge 4% Bracers (from a Fens rare) ML:3 Deadly Cursed Ring: +3compt. dmg, -1con (from an elite Irestone chest)

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crunch Stormreaver Piker Offline Posts: 745 Location: Europe Joined: Mar 20^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #23 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 4:53am	Print Post
	stuff is now also on non-standard locations * wizardry 6 necklace ml11 * 105 fort boots of prot1 ml13 also previously epic only effects are available earlier: * natural armor 6 on ml13 item (with some shitty prefix) interesting: * dodge 6 boots ml11


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: This new loot gen stuff Reply #24 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 2:05pm	Print Post
	Yep. They have really screwed up all named loot with this new ML stuff. The ML on deadly and natural armor and such is so different that the loot gen stuff is generally better than named atm.


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