Asheras wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:



All of those wraps have a different purpose, so in my mind ranking them against each other is questionable.

Grave - Orange named neg leveling and all purpose level 20 wrap for those on a budget
Ivy - Prestige Survival Toy
Alchemical - Something fancy to use at 18/20.

Antipode - General all purpose DPS, slot for devotion, extra effects from set

The new wrap is a good one for new characters/players who don't have an antipode.  It's pretty decent DPS and the red slot helps cocoon.

Tobril wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 5:47pm:


are you serious ?
those wraps are fucking shit and the reason i will not bother with the prowess set bonus ever on my unarmed monk

if they had been given something truly unique, such as stunning +15 when they were introduced they might have been good but their unique shit is doing 4d6 again true neutral targets, animals and elementals, any normal mob gets 2d6, guess what else gives 2d6 vs everything but a fancy neg level proc ontop

I've been doing ok with Halycon Boots, I did make Air/Water/something alchem wraps and slotted devo on them because I had the stuff for them in my bags anyways, it's a nice bump in selfheal but not 'omg must have'

I started chain TRing my monk anyways and b4 that I still used the claw set   

Am I the only one who likes Adamantine Knuckles then?  +2[W] - in addition to the usual epic bonus - and three slots are nice; I keep a couple of pairs on any toon that might fight unarmed, just 'cos they're so customisable and augments seem to drop like rain.

Anyone got a screenie of Thunder & Lightning?  Can't find them on the wiki.

Persiflage wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 9:39am:


I think it depends on what else you have.  If you have another source for Reinforced Fists and Doublestrike and Stunning, then Antipode is bringing less to the table.  You are a full die step better on the Addy Knuckles and you have two slots to make up the DPS vs. the Antipodal option.  Of course the Antipodal and the Slots are situationally more or less valuable.

The kicker is the Conflux Prowress Set.  That +4 to damage offsets the die step lost.  You still have the PRR and Attack bonuse to consider, and when upgraded, the +8 vs. +7.  So the advantage seems to go slightly to the Antipode vs. the Knuckles, but it's close.  The Knuckles are clearly easier to get.

I've seen some loot gen wraps that  have nice effects, but you always seem to lose a lot in the base damage area with loot gen wraps vs. Antipode or the Addy Knuckles. 

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Dropped mine.  Ring 1 is a +8 damage of whatever (will swap to a +10 if I find a good one) and swap for ring 2 between manslayer and various dun-robar.

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Yes, and it is hard to let go of, even knowing I have better choices.

Starkjade wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 10:57am:


It does 8d4 sonic and 8d4 electric, not 4d4 of each.  It gives a +1.5[W] due to the Impact II.  That makes it equivalent to Antipode and .5[W} behind Addy Knuckles in base damage, although with Reinforced fists from another source, it would be even with Antipode on base damage.  (Minus an upgraded Antipode's +8 vs. T&L's +7 for one extra damage on the Antipode)  But the antipodal damage couldn't possible outshine 16d4 of add on damage, unless there was resistance/immunity to sonic and or lightning in play.

the 20%hamp ring i only used when tanking stuff

I made a list the other day with 'ok this is what I want for effects on gear when I finished the TRs for this gimp...' that list is a fucking nightmare to work out

Asheras wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 8:35pm:



Much harder to get/make, obviously, but I did the math a while back and found t3 alchems to be higher damage than any other wraps (including Antipodes). Assuming no cold resist of course.

Adamantine Ks were right there too, but with fewer fringe benefits (+2 stat etc).


Too bad LOB doesn't get run more.

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Show us on the doll where the mean man said "Lob is hard".  We'll wait.

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The completion lists are working?